tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post2832033899058926499..comments2023-11-03T05:37:50.770-07:00Comments on Tin's Fins: 2010 Draft - Round 1 ReportUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-54355598779286480942010-04-24T07:21:18.000-07:002010-04-24T07:21:18.000-07:00The sporting news draft guide had us mocked at tak...The sporting news draft guide had us mocked at taking ...<br />pick 43: Jared Odrik<br />pick 73: John Jerry at <br /><br />4th Round: S-Stuckey<br />5th Round: RB-James Starks<br />6th Round: TE-Jameson Konz and WR-Mike Williams<br />7th Round: LB-Mike McLaughlin, LB-Keaton Kristick and RB Lonyae Miller<br /><br />Didn't find it online, think this was the hard copy. Posted on Phinsheaven.comJerryDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-61705959840146512622010-04-24T01:10:04.000-07:002010-04-24T01:10:04.000-07:00<span>Okay... since it's hailing like c...<span>Okay... since it's hailing like crazy here and I have been awoken, my mind started wandering... So i'll post on why I now feel pretty postive about our first 3 picks. For Starters what were our Needs going into this draft: NT, FS, OLB, LG, TE <br /> <br />With the news breaking via Jeff Ireland that Randy Starks is moving to NT, and that he isn't just making the move to NT he is currently intended to be our 2010 Starting NT that to me changes things. Randy Starks has the prototypical NT size, this will be his 3rd season in a 3-4 defense, Jay Ratliff and Ferg took about that long before they got their shot to start, Starks is just 26 years old. NT need Filled, DE need open. <br /> <br />Jared Odrick goes from BPA, to BPA who fills a need. When Jeff Ireland said he suspected we'd know very soon what position Odrick was brought into play he wasn't kidding, the smokescreen is now clearing and they felt comfortable letting that cat out of the bag. They obviously wanted teams to think they were targetting a NT for the first 3 rounds, for whatever reason they feel comfortable now revealing they aren't overtly in need of one, I suspect that's because they now want teams to not associate us with NT so we stand a better chance to add a NT depth/project. Thus it was no longer beneficial to keep the Randy Starks move a secret. Jeff Owens fits the bill as a NT target. <br /> <br />Koa Misi, to me fits a need, I consider him a SOLB. He had multiple snaps in a two point stance as a DE. <span><span><span>"has a nice repertoire of tricks ... not cameron wake in terms of outside speed, but very creative rusher" - Ireland. Misi was 275 at DT his sophomore year, 244 at Senior bowl, 251 at his pro day. Kid can change his weight to fit a more stout Parcells mold. Ireland sited his versatilty having played "DL,DE,OLB,ILB" as enticing us to take him and that we believe he will play OLB for us. </span></span></span> <br /> <br />John Jerry, the much maligned Captain Hemorrhoid... I haven't watched this kid a lot, as I suspect many people who dislike this pick haven't. That's a bit unfair way to go about this, ultimately he does fill a need at LG assuming Smiley is on the way out. From scouting around here is what i've found on the kid. Scouts Inc. ranks him the 4th best guard. From multiple reports he is a very agile guard who is excellent when pulling, He has high awareness when picking up stunts or blitzes, Good Instincts. People would like to see him get a meaner streak, be more of a "mauler", I'd say he's surrounded by good influences in that regard at miami. Again, I haven't watched enough to throw my judgement on him out like I know for certain, that's just what i've read. <br /> <br />In retrospect I have a positive feeling about all of these picks, especially our #1 Jared Odrick, i always like it, but now I LOVE it. I think now that the smokescreen has cleared a bit in retrospect what we've done makes a lot of sense and i'm left feeling optimistic.</span>Tryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-42503074521907743692010-04-24T01:09:12.000-07:002010-04-24T01:09:12.000-07:00Okay... since it's hailing like crazy here and...Okay... since it's hailing like crazy here and I have been awoken, my mind started wandering... So i'll post on why I now feel pretty postive about our first 3 picks.<br /><br />For Starters what were our Needs going into this draft: NT, FS, OLB, LG, TE<br /><br />With the news breaking via Jeff Ireland that Randy Starks is moving to NT, and that he isn't just making the move to NT he is currently intended to be our 2010 Starting NT that to me changes things. Randy Starks has the prototypical NT size, this will be his 3rd season in a 3-4 defense, Jay Ratliff and Ferg took about that long before they got their shot to start, Starks is just 26 years old. NT need Filled, DE need open.<br /><br />Jared Odrick goes from BPA, to BPA who fills a need. When Jeff Ireland said he suspected we'd know very soon what position Odrick was brought into play he wasn't kidding, the smokescreen is now clearing and they felt comfortable letting that cat out of the bag. They obviously wanted teams to think they were targetting a NT for the first 3 rounds, for whatever reason they feel comfortable now revealing they aren't overtly in need of one, I suspect that's because they now want teams to not associate us with NT so we stand a better chance to add a NT depth/project. Thus it was no longer beneficial to keep the Randy Starks move a secret. Jeff Owens fits the bill as a NT target.<br /><br />Koa Misi, to me fits a need, I consider him a SOLB. He had multiple snaps in a two point stance as a DE. <span><span><span>"has a nice repertoire of tricks ... not cameron wake in terms of outside speed, but very creative rusher" - Ireland. Misi was 275 at DT his sophomore year, 244 at Senior bowl, 251 at his pro day. Kid can change his weight to fit a more stout Parcells mold. Ireland sited his versatilty having played "DL,DE,OLB,ILB" as enticing us to take him and that we believe he will play OLB for us.<br /></span></span></span><br /><br />John Jerry, the much maligned Captain Hemorrhoid... I haven't watched this kid a lot, as I suspect many people who dislike this pick haven't. That's a bit unfair way to go about this, ultimately he does fill a need at LG assuming Smiley is on the way out. From scouting around here is what i've found on the kid. Scouts Inc. ranks him the 4th best guard. From multiple reports he is a very agile guard who is excellent when pulling, He has high awareness when picking up stunts or blitzes, Good Instincts. People would like to see him get a meaner streak, be more of a "mauler", I'd say he's surrounded by good influences in that regard at miami. Again, I haven't watched enough to throw my judgement on him out like I know for certain, that's just what i've read.<br /><br />In retrospect I have a positive feeling about all of these picks, especially our #1 Jared Odrick, i always like it, but now I LOVE it. I think now that the smokescreen has cleared a bit in retrospect what we've done makes a lot of sense and i'm left feeling optimistic.Tryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-19056117426575589802010-04-23T14:29:43.000-07:002010-04-23T14:29:43.000-07:00I've heard a lot of good things about Cook and...I've heard a lot of good things about Cook and that a lot of teams are interested in him. Because he has good size 6-2 210 4.45 speed, can play corner and fall back at safety if he doesn't pan out at there, teams like that in players. That's why I think Dan Williams went where I thought he should go. He can't play safety. LOL<br /><br />If he can't play NT in a 3-4 there is nowhere for him to go. In a 4-3 he's a DT and can probably have a good career there. One dimensional players usually get drafted a bit later.Tim The Enchanternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-47024816670560835122010-04-23T14:19:15.000-07:002010-04-23T14:19:15.000-07:00chatroll is open! I'll see everyone in 45 min...chatroll is open! I'll see everyone in 45 minutes!Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-42752331467702845102010-04-23T14:18:54.000-07:002010-04-23T14:18:54.000-07:00I'm not really a fan of his, but I think the m...I'm not really a fan of his, but I think the main problem is his draft grade. I think he comes in around 3rd/4th. Media reports all say high 2nd.Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-19311832464512426652010-04-23T14:16:28.000-07:002010-04-23T14:16:28.000-07:00Chris Cook is another good DB prospect who could p...Chris Cook is another good DB prospect who could play corner or safety.Tim The Enchanternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-34171080955391626512010-04-23T14:05:26.000-07:002010-04-23T14:05:26.000-07:00I think McDaniel can be traded to Cleveland to jum...I think McDaniel can be traded to Cleveland to jump to #38.<br />OR - we could package Merling and our 3rd (#73) to move up to #58 with<br />Arizona.<br />OR - we could trade Justin Smiley, our 40th and a late 6th/early 7th to move<br />up to #33 with St Louis.<br />I could keep going....Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-56543181150001860022010-04-23T14:03:35.000-07:002010-04-23T14:03:35.000-07:00About an hour left until draft time :DAbout an hour left until draft time :DTryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-72161314450200081012010-04-23T13:56:04.000-07:002010-04-23T13:56:04.000-07:00Yeah USF doesn't have a lot of televised games...Yeah USF doesn't have a lot of televised games to begin with and when they<br />do no one records themTinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-63402909049478778062010-04-23T13:48:12.000-07:002010-04-23T13:48:12.000-07:00Tin,
What do you think is going to happen with DL...Tin,<br /><br />What do you think is going to happen with DL with the Odrick pick? I saw your post earlier about rotating, which I'm sure is always part of it. Do you see Merling being moved? Will Odrick challenge Soliai or Langford?Big Dawggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-52713546372531366142010-04-23T13:45:47.000-07:002010-04-23T13:45:47.000-07:00This is true and we need OLB help as much as this ...This is true and we need OLB help as much as this country needs a bailout!Big Dawggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-30225437614168291982010-04-23T13:38:08.000-07:002010-04-23T13:38:08.000-07:00There aren't really any good highlight videos ...There aren't really any good highlight videos of Nate Allen except his 2007 season, at least i haven't seen any... not that he didn't have great highlights, just nobody took time to make a video, he arguably had a an equal or better season in 09.Tryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-29911313040413905282010-04-23T13:32:47.000-07:002010-04-23T13:32:47.000-07:00If you look up any USF defensive highlight video o...If you look up any USF defensive highlight video on youtube from the last<br />four years you'll see at least 3 instances of Pat White being destroyed.<br />Trust me when I say, I know Pat White. I knew what he was before we drafted<br />him.Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-42153983786354190412010-04-23T13:32:04.000-07:002010-04-23T13:32:04.000-07:00yeah... that's to be sure, but in this situati...yeah... that's to be sure, but in this situation I don't see it... I think Culver is a good backup and a capable starter. I hope we just go 1 fs, and take a SS development player day 3.Tryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-16082829031340684672010-04-23T13:03:58.000-07:002010-04-23T13:03:58.000-07:00Thanks for the video of Odrick on the previous pos...Thanks for the video of Odrick on the previous post...I really like this new Dolphin!<br /><br />Is there a reason you chose a 2007 highlight for Nate Allen? I didn't really pay attention to the title of the video until I started watching it and then was laughing because lo and behold there was....Pat White! lolherdfannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-36302395655631629492010-04-23T12:54:08.000-07:002010-04-23T12:54:08.000-07:00The trifecta likes to double up on picks when they...The trifecta likes to double up on picks when they need a starter.Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-20752163976767183412010-04-23T12:53:02.000-07:002010-04-23T12:53:02.000-07:00Yes the commercials were timed to a tee to take an...Yes the commercials were timed to a tee to take any Dolphins discussion off the table. It was uncanny.Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-86950116064481275142010-04-23T12:44:38.000-07:002010-04-23T12:44:38.000-07:00Have to say I'd love to get Burnett. That vid...Have to say I'd love to get Burnett. That video was the first highlights I've seen on the player. Hopefully he's still available at 73. Definitely looks like he could come in immediately and contribute. Diggsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-76790773954134840982010-04-23T12:37:12.000-07:002010-04-23T12:37:12.000-07:00Good stuff, Tin. I'd like to see us get an OLB...Good stuff, Tin. I'd like to see us get an OLB and S in the next two rounds. Burnett looks like a trifecta type of player and Owusu-Ansah is a good prospect as well. The trifecta could be interested in Koa Misi and Jason Worilds at OLB.Tim The Enchanternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-86075377334607507792010-04-23T12:21:21.000-07:002010-04-23T12:21:21.000-07:00That & it went to commercial everytime the dol...That & it went to commercial everytime the dolphins were up or about to make their selection... The suspense reminded me of watching a dolphin game.PHINS_FANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-80928908443092305762010-04-23T12:10:43.000-07:002010-04-23T12:10:43.000-07:00Tin I like your scenarios... though my dream scena...Tin I like your scenarios... though my dream scenario is combining your 2nd and 3rd.<br /><br />Nate Allen/Torrell Troup... that's been one of my fantasies since this process began. If it played out i'd be ecstatic. I love both of these players and they fit needs of ours.<br /><br />Your 2nd scenario kind of left me scratching my head... I obviously like Nate Allen, I also like Akwasi Owusu-Ansah... but I've always thought both of them would be better as FS's... Nate Allen obviously, but i look at Akwasi and I see a FS. So I think it's a one or the other situation.Tryptichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-2725095819346300642010-04-23T12:01:12.000-07:002010-04-23T12:01:12.000-07:00I don't have a problem with Griffen at 40, tho...I don't have a problem with Griffen at 40, though I suspect he may be taken by the time we pick. He has a strange history at USC - he started both the 2007 and 2008 seasons as the starter but got benched both years after 2 games. So I wonder what that's all about.<br /><br />In some updated mocks tody I'm noticing Kindle is not even listed, so maybe this medical issue really is that serious.<br /><br />Personally I project Kam Chancellor to plays FS, I like him a lot.Tinshakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-87821198366263890242010-04-23T11:55:00.000-07:002010-04-23T11:55:00.000-07:00I forgot to ask: Does anyone have a live stream fo...I forgot to ask: Does anyone have a live stream for tonight that is not on justin.tv? I live in Europe and the draft is not televised at all over here. With justin.tv I always get a message that my country's national limit is reached and get kicked out.Burnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1624420118244025974.post-47277509025903254332010-04-23T11:54:41.000-07:002010-04-23T11:54:41.000-07:00Yeah I checked that out and things are making much...Yeah I checked that out and things are making much more sense now (until we draft Cody AND Troup and trade Henne for Tebow)Red Dognoreply@blogger.com