Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Tin Bits - Tuesday, October 6th, 2009

  • Per David Neal, Dolphins practice squad corner-back, Will Billingsley, who spent the entire off-season and most of the pre-season with the Dolphins and has yo-yo'd on and off the PS for quite a while now, was arrested yesterday for misdemeanor domestic battery and resisting an officer's charges.  Sounds like someone started a one-sided pillow fight.
  • Click HERE to vote for Ronnie Brown for weekly honors for the Fedex Ground Player of the Week.
  • Click HERE to vote for Vontae Davis for weekly honors of Rookie of the Week.
  • Calvin Pace will be back in action for the Jets on Monday Night after serving his four-game suspension for doing bad things.  Keep in mind that the Dolphins tried to sign Pace in 2008 but the Jets offered him the big bucks that Miami didn't.  Had he signed with the Dolphins, we probably would never have gotten JT back or went after Cameron Wake, a far cheaper, and more respectable version of Pace, IMO.   Although hopefully Wake will put up a lot more sacks.  Pace is a good linebacker, but not worth the kind of money they paid him as he's not an every down player, or even every game if you look at this year.
  • We no longer have to face him twice a year but today is Richard Seymour's 30th birthday.  While the Belichick infatuated fans like to think that Seymour was over the hill, keep in mind that he simply was their best defensive player (no offense to Wilfork) and has shown no signs of age in Oakland.  Also, despite thinking Seymour was too old to re-sign, the Pats have made a living over signing older veterans.  They went after JT this off-season, and he's ancient!

  • And finally, my dream of drafting Michael Crabtree may finally come to an end today as he reportedly is, then isn't, now IS, meeting with the 49ers today.  Maybe he signs, but also just as likely he just came to get his CDs and favorite t-shirt back.

81 comments:

  1. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 8:24 AM

    Calvin Pace is a good LB but he's an average pass rusher. Some people talk about this this guy like he has been racking up double digit sacks his entire career. He's never had double digit sacks, 6.5 and 7 his last two seasons being his most. That's 6 years in the league.

    Cameron Wake definitely showed Sunday why he racked up all those sacks in Canada. Hopefully that will continue.

    So Tin, Matt Roth is reportedly healthy and ready to go. When he's activated who gets cut? My guess is Charlie Anderson or Quinten Moses. Anderson because he doesn't offer much as a LB or Moses because he doesn't offer much on special teams.

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  2. I haven't seen report on Roth...gotta link?
    I would suspect Walden would get the axe. He's currently the low-man on the
    totem pole. But we're a long way off from Roth coming back (3 weeks) and
    anyone could get injured in the meantime and place on IR.

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  3. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 8:45 AM

    Someone on the SS asked Omar yesterday about Roth and he said Roth told him he's healthy and ready to go but he can't participate until the 6 weeks are up.

    Walden is probably the best special teams LB we have though.

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  4. Tin, greetings!

    We win one and it's, "...yeah, but it was against ..." Buffalo's collapse against the Pats obviously destroyed them mentally! Even TO apparently doesn't have his heart in it, either. Meanwhile, the Pats are looking formidable again. I'll hold my Jets comments until you post your weekly matchup post!

    Will Billingsley (nice pun, eh?) become another pagan burned at the goalpost as a friendly reminder to the locker room?

    I like that Wake played well when he got the chance and that his play will likely push the others around him to play better. The less time opposing QBs have to find the holes in our secondary, the less beleagured our pass coverage will be and we'll see more defensive highlight plays.

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  5. Nah I think Wake is. Walden was inactive for first 3 weeks

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  6. "The less time opposing QBs have to find the holes in our secondary, the
    less beleaguered our pass coverage will be and we'll see more defensive
    highlight plays. "
    Exactly!

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  7. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 9:00 AM

    Was he? I didn't know that.

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  8. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 9:09 AM

    That's the case for any defense. The way they play the game today, DBs can't really do anything to a receiver so the offense has a big advantage. That's why pass rush is the most important aspect of a defense in today's game.

    Look at last night's game. If Aaron Rodgers wasn't so good the Vikes blow out the Pack. He was sacked 9 times and threw for 384 yards. What does that say about the Vikings secondary that has 2 pro bowlers?

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  9. I'm confused...I think your example actually contradicted your point!

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  10. This game to me is a season defining one.  Win, and we have a chance in the division, and we'll probably deflate The Dirty Sanchitas' egos.  Either way, one team on the rise, one on the way down.  I hope they keep Wake very much in the mix, and other than that (Merling healing), I'm not worried about defense.  I hope the offense just needed a game with their new QB to make the proper adjustments and now we come out confident and capable.  I WANT TO SEE BIG PLAYS!!!

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  11. Thank you for putting the voting links on here.  I used to vote last year when Dolphin players were in the running, but I have completely forgotten to check this year.  Like they say where I'm from, Vote early and often!!!  ;)

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  12. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM

    I see why I confused my point. The Vikes pass rush ultimately won that game. If Rodgers wasn't so good that game is a blowout. Even with that pass rush he was able to complete passes against a good secondary because of the no contact rules. How were so many Packers receivers wide open with that kind of pass rush? That shouldn't be the case.

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  13. Oh, you mean in much the same way that the Colts/Dolphins game both proved
    my philosophy while completely tearing it apart as well?

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  14. It's hard to believe what one outside linebacker meant to this team.  If Roth is ready as Omar claims this unit is in for one huge upgrade from what we had in the first 3 games at the 2 outside spots.  We have missed Roth badly or at least I have.  I see this team coming together Ladies and Gentlemen.  This youth is the way this team needs to go, and it's not that hard to see that.

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  15. Hmm, I would say we haven't missed Roth at all actually. Maybe in an
    electrical spark kind of way, but not in a production way.Last I checked we
    had the 2nd best run defense in the league giving up just 61.0 yards a
    game. This compared to lastyear when we were 10th for the year, giving up
    101.2 yards a game.

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  16. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    Pretty much. LOL

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  17. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    It's interesting, the Ravens and us are 1st and 2nd against the run by 1.5 yards and 23rd and 24th in pass defense by 6.2 yards respectfully. We're also tied for 6th with 11 sacks and the Ravens are tied for 9th with 10. We're also 14th in points allowed and the Ravens are 15th 19.8 to 20.

    The reason I mention this is because everyone talks about the Ravens defense but we have issues.

    The great blitzing Rex Ryan defense has a whopping 4 sacks. Put that in your hat and smoke it. LOL

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  18. oh gawd, don't egg them on to pad those sack stats this week. ;)

    I have watched two Jets games this year, just because I was curious what Sanchez could do. At home when he is not riled he is good, but what I noticed was the difference in the Jets defense from last year to this. I know they changed coaches and added some Ravens players, but dang, they look formidable. Think of the NO score, 14 of those points were defensive points, I think. So they held Brees and Co. to 10 points. That is a little scary going into this week. JMO though.

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  19. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    The Bills kept the Saints passing game in check. The Saints can run the ball and they ran for 222 against the Bills and 153 against the Jets. Every game is different. Brees went from throwing 9 TDs the first two weeks to none the last two.

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  20. I'm BAAAAaaack!

    I swore off the SS boards since too many people there seemed to dislike me a bit too strongly for my tastes. For anyone reading here PLEASE accept my apologies for anything I've posted in the past that you might hate me for. I once had a heated debate w/ Walker (well over a year ago) about racism, and I said something about telling his principal he was using the school computer all day for posting. I shouldn't have said that, and even apologized to Walker after the fact, but a full year later he still calls me an A hole for it, so I guess he'll never forgive me.

    Again, I know I ruffle feathers, but I just wanna talk fins! So anybody reading....byegones!

    I'm still swearing off the SS boards though, Tin's ratcheted up his game over the last year, and most of the people I actually want to chat with are here.

    Good to read y'all and props on the blog Tin, it's really come a long way. I have no idea how you make time for it!

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  21. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

    Welcome back Jahndoh. Some stuff on blogs just goes too far but if someone legitimately apologizes and never really caused anyone any harm, then let it go. That's how I look at it anyway. This coming from a guy who has stalkers creating blogs in his name. LOL

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  22. Knight:
    I don't know what you are smoking, but a hat?  I did have this thing that looked like a tube of lipstick once......... 8-)

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  23. Good point Knight. Nice win this week! A win going into the bye week would completely change my outlook on our season!

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  24. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Huh?  :-E

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  25. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Agreed!

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  26. a pocket rocket.?

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  27. The SS is a joke these days. Nearly as many Jet fans as fin fans, lots of retards, lots of trolls, multiple posters and snide going on and Omar rarely has time to comment. There is very little respect and a lof of the Herald bloggers have migarted there too now. I like the blogs, but the comments section is like a transcript from a zoo some days. 'tis altogether more civilised over here. Cheers Tin (and I don't know where you get the time either!)

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  28. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    What is everyone talking about?

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  29. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    I never thought that the Matt Roth injury would hurt us after we got Jason Taylor but it HAS!!!  First off JT is playing out of position & secondly I just don't know if he has enough left in the tank to be an every down player.  Had Roth been healthy Taylor might have excelled in a lesser 3rd down role.   I'm not ready to close the book on Taylor just yet after 4 games but it appears we will not see the same electricity us "lifers" were once accustomed to seeing.   

    Not sure what the status on Porter is for Monday night but we need to make some room for Wake.  After last week the kid deserves more playing time.  Enough with the Anderson experiment already!!!  His play is so ineffective I never know when he's on the field or not.  Let's face the facts Tuna--this guy never really panned out either.  

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  30. <span style="cursor: pointer;">"The Knight who says Ni!</span>

    <span>The great blitzing Rex Ryan defense has a whopping 4 sacks. Put that in your hat and smoke it. LOL</span>
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  31. I see we're playing in Orange again on Monday. We are 2-0 in orange in prime time. May the trend continue. Pity Timbo or the Truck aren't still here - that orange was made for them ..... revenge of the killer pumpkins. :-D

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  32. Why is everyone picking THIS week to be down on JT? he had 2 sacks this
    week.

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  33. I tried to copy it, but ended up with a bunch of code.  YOU said it....'Put it in your hat and smoke it'.  earlier in today's comments.  It doesn't take much to get me started!

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  34. Orange vs Gold. Be prepared to lose your eyesight.

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  35. I'd say it might be more that Roth is ready to get rid of the ballcap since JT had 2 sacks on Sunday.

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  36. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:38 PM

    Couldn't agree more. When I go to the SS it doesn't take long before I'm irritated and bored with all the crap that goes on there. I have to read 14 posts in a row saying the same thing and repeating my name with insults and other retarded comments.

    What is it about a football blogs that draws that type of behavior? I've been on musician/guitar blogs talking about bands, guitars, equipment etc. and I don't see that sort of thing. I don't go there much anymore unless I'm in the market for something, but you don't see stuff like:

    Blogger: "Hey I have a 1959 Gibson Les Paul sunburst with original hardware."
    Troll: "Really, do you stick the headstock up your ass?"
    Blogger: "WTF?"
    Troll: "You don't have a real Gibson Les Paul, it's a cheap knockoff that your momma got from whoring."
    Blogger: "What's your problem, dude?"
    Troll: "Ghey ?"
    Blogger: "What?"

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  37. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    Oh... but I didn't mean that towards anyone specific.

    herd, if you want to copy something that has code, just use a basic text program like 'notepad' and convert it to plain text, then copy and paste it.

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  38. Jets in gold? Think I'd better take evasive action 8-)  lol

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  39. Knight you know sh*t. Why don't you go play some sitar or something and leave the football to folks like Tin who know what they are talking about. The only good thing about you being on here is that your wife is keeping me busy at your home ........ that kind of thing you mean (lol)

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  40. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    Oh no, I knew the Phins were wearing their Orange jerseys which I don't really like, but they've never lost in those. But the Jets are going to wear their blue and gold again? Why don't they just make a permanent switch to those uniforms. They seem to wear them more than their green and white.

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  41. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    Yeah something like that. I like how you snuck in a cheap shot about my wife in the name of joking. LOL

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  42. Ooh this looks like fun...allow *me.*...
    Troll: "Ghey ?"
    Blogger: "What?"
    Herald-reader: "You wouldn't know the difference between a 5951 Gibbon Pes
    Loll wit da sunfarg hard-on and the gayness that is you if you had a
    trumpet. Armando is KING!!!"
    PBP reader: *(I wonder if I should leave a comment...nope, I thought about
    it, and I decided not to.)*
    Sun-Sentinel reader: "right you fagheads this is a football blog so can we
    stick to all things football here you dumb retarded dyslexic fools! LOL LOL
    LOL!"
    Mike Berardino: "When you say all things football, I read that as all
    things baseball, pop culture, and doing whatever it takes not to talk to a
    Dolphins member of staff or player directly."
    Troll: "You raise a good point, Mikey B, but can you tell me who is the
    biggest loser, Knight who says Ni or Tinshaker?"

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  43. I don't think there's too much wrong with our run D and our pass rush was much more consistent in game 4 too. We can't have enough good rotation in the front 7 imho, as those big bodies can get tired and fresh legs can help spice things up towards game end.

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  44. They should be wearing their horrid blue and gold uniforms

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  45. Well they are their 50th anniversary uniforms apparently, but they wore them
    last year, maybe someone mis-counted?

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  46. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Tins,

    I love JT.  I wanted him to back in Miami where he belongs but those two sacks were in garbage time after we built up a big lead 7 were able to pin our ears back..  Sure the stats look great but did he dominate that game in any way like he used to???   Two sacks sounds like a dominant performance but in the past it wasn't just about sacks with JT, it was about the pressure he brought all day.  Not to mention the need to gameplan against him.  If you watched Jared Allen last night I think he had two sacks last night too but he was unstoppable.  He wreaked havoc on Rogers all game.  That's what Taylor used to do.   Through 4 games either him or Porter for that matter has been a PLAYMAKER for this defense.  

    I was especially impressed with the play of Langford, Wake, Y. Bell, & Vontae Davis.  And Ferguson is always good.  I thought these guys in particular came to play like we NEEDED a win. 

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  47. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    Uk,

    Very well put.  I totally agree.

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  48. It seems like there are no shades of grey on there, only black and white, right and wrong and anyone who disagrees gets a taste of my AK47?
    I speed scroll through there now just dropping on certain posters who talk sense, but I am constantly amazed at the patience you have trying to be rational with some posters who wouldn't understand what you were saying if you wrote it on a baseball bat and whacked them across the bridge of their nose with it? E.g. Ginn is either Jerry Rice II or a bust. They are your choices. LMAO. Sigh.

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  49. Tin and Knight - don't get your panties in a wad, it'll all be ok when the old aligator gar gets back on the field? ;)

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  50. I think we were watching a different game because it was by far his best
    performance of the year. He barely missed getting a third sack thanks to
    Wake getting there a split second earlier, and he provided more pressure
    from the weakside than Porter had been in the 3 previous games.

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  51. <span>"Why is everyone picking THIS week to be down on JT? he had 2 sacks this week."</span>

    Tin, I never liked what JT had become before he was sent packing to the Redskins. He became a media hound, parlayed that into dancing on TV and started talking about replacing football with acting. He was nothing in Washington, but he's a man in SoFla. Yep, JT yucking it up for the cameras last Sunday looked depressingly like a movie I had already seen. I sure hope Roth is coming back.

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  52. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM

    Slush,

    I live in NY & I agree with you.  Unfortunately the Jets defense looks MUCH better than they did last year b/c Ryan is a much more aggressive Coach.   He has 4 or 5 guys coming from different positons on almost every play.  Bart Scott is another very good player that he Ryan has added to the mix but they have a ton of talent with Kris Jenkins, Kerry Rhodes, David Harris, & especially Revis. 

    I read what Tins said about Calvin Pace & I totally disagree.  I watched every game he played last year & he's a heck of a player.  I wish we would have gotten him.  With Pace back instead of Gholston the Jets are stacked on defense.   Henne will not have a lot of time to get rid of the football but I think we can effectively run the ball on any team in the NFL.  I believe R&R will wear Jenkins down & throw in the humidity of South Florida he'll be huffing & puffing on the sidelines.

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  53. Time to come clean....the Ol' Alligator Gar is (drumroll please).....nope,
    still no idea....

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  54. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    LMFAO!!!!  :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D  

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  55. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    LOL

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  56. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM

    The Dolphins once wore those orange jerseys 50 years ago?

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  57. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM

    "You wouldn't know the difference between a 5951 Gibbon Pes 
    Loll wit da sunfarg hard-on and the gayness that is you if you had a 
    trumpet. Armando is KING!!!"


    I'm laughing so hard I have tears in my eyes and I can't stop. I hope no one comes to ask me a question. I can't talk.  :-D

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  58. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:18 PM

    Tins,

    I honestly don't think that's saying much considering our pass rush was virtually non-existent for the first three weeks.  Was it Taylor's best game of the season???  Absolutely!!!  However was he the dominant player that he used to be or even remotely close to the Joey Porter of last year???  Porter was a game changer last year & I haven't seen that from any of the OLB's yet.

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  59. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    UK,

    Man, I miss both of those guys.

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  60. A fashion statement they are not, but by pure coincidence I was actually at the first game they wore them at (Greise threw an 80yd TD to McKnight and McK also recovered a fumble to seal the deal at the end). So I'm biased and I kinda like them as a result. If wearing them somehow gives the team a little s/thing extra, I'm all for them.

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  61. I love how I always get called out for stuff I didn't say. I quote myself
    "Pace is a good linebacker".
    At no point did I say he wasn't good. I actually said he was good. But he's
    not great. In fact, I'd go as far as to say, out of the 4 starting
    linebackers on the Jets, he is the weakest (no scratch that, 4th strongest!)

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  62. No, the Dolphins weren't one of the original teams

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  63. I know it was a blow-out, but you don't think Wake's 3 sacks and a forced
    fumble was a game-changing performance?

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  64. Is it a bird, is it a plane ......

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  65. Knight:
    well that is at least 2 or 3 more steps than I can take the time to do.  I'm strictly ctrl C, ctrl V. 

    The other just struck me as funny, you are definitely smoking out of your hat!

    Tinshaker had some mixed metaphor the other day with a bag of potatoes.  

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  66. WHP - the pressure in the first three games wasn't reflected in sacks and absolutley wasn't consistent ..... when it was absent we gave up big plays, but I would say "non-existent" was a bit strong. Not being pedantic, but we did get other teams off the field on third down once or twice. The difference against the Bills is it was all game long. The other thing about JT is teams respect him so much they make extra sure he's accounted for, making it easier for other pass-rushers. After the Bills game, I think we see the Jets looking to maybe double up on him with a back too?

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  67. Why is it a mixed metaphor? Potatoes come in bags...

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  68. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:43 PM

    Wake was more of a game-changer against the Bills than any other OLB this year.  He was one of the players I was most impressed with.  But Porter & Taylor used to be one man wrecking crews!!!  Porter was winning games for us last year with huge plays.  Can Wake become that player?  IMO--He needs to play more.  Right now I'd say he's our best chance of having a dominant pass rusher this season & we need one!!!

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  69. WHP - did you hit the sarcasm button or was that straight up? I was referring to Greise Jr, not Sr. Jr was benched in the game in favour of Feidler. McKnight did some good things for the fins, but he reminds me of Chambers a bit - caught the difficult ones and sometimes dropped the easy ones.

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  70. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    It's actually annoying already.  They're no longer the Titans, they're the Jets!!!  Nothing says loser like the good ole green & white.   God I hate them.......And this guy Ryan couldn't be any more abrasive & pompous!!!  Kind of like a football version of Michael Moore!!!   LOL!!!

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  71. Not to bring up the past, but Porter was hot early and completely
    disappeared towards the end of the year. So maybe Taylor is having his
    slump early and will pick things up as the year goes on.
    As with Wake, I did not understand why we weren't rotating pass-rushers
    during the games like we should. We have the bodies, yet it took an injury
    to a starter to get more players on the field. Maybe Porter wouldn't have
    been injured in the first place if he wasn't required to take 90% of the
    reps.

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  72. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Ha!!!  That's hilarious!!!   No.  Not a fan of the QB that used to fumble games away (Griese Jr.) or McKnight for that matter.  Those two used to kill me!!!!

    When I said I missed those guys I was talking about your earlier post about Traylor & Tim Bowens.  Timbo was one of the most underrated Dolphins I ever saw play.  I loved that big mofo!!!

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  73. We Have PlaymakersOctober 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    UK,

    BTW--Best Cameron personnel move was to trade Chambers!!!  So inconsistent.......

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  74. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM

    PBP reader: *(I wonder if I should leave a comment...nope, I thought about 
    it, and I decided not to.)*


    LOL, that's so true. The SS and Herald blogs have hundreds of posts and the PBP has like 4. LOL

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  75. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    Oh right, they started in 1966-67 right? So what's up with the 50th anniversary thing then?

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  76. Knight,

    The commemoration is the 50th anniversary of the AFL, they chose to apply the vintage uniform stuff to all of the AFL teams that existed when the merger w/ the NFL took place. Miami was an AFL expansion franchise, but they existed at the time of the merger.

    None of that was researched, it's just from memory fwiwi.

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  77. The Knight who says Ni!October 6, 2009 at 5:41 PM

    Jahndoh, thanks man. I'm not the big historian on that kind of stuff. I know a little about it but it's not a big interest of mine. All these anniversary uniform changes is all about merchandising. It turns me off.

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  78. Do you think Rex Ryan will be wearing gold?  He'll look like a school bus.

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  79. The Jets are wearing the 50th anniversary uniforms...this is old news,
    Knight...where have you been? The original eight teams are wearing
    throwback uniforms in one home and one road game each. But the Jets wore
    the jerseys all of last year and I think they are wearing them on Monday
    night because of the exposure.

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  80. The Knight who says Ni!October 7, 2009 at 6:44 AM

    I thought they did that last year. The Titans wearing the Oilers helmets is ridiculous. The Tennessee fans have no connection with that at all. LOL

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  81. I agree.  Can't stand everyone ready to jump ship every second, whining and crying because the NFL isn't Madden.....

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