Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Tin Bits - Where are they now? UPDATED 8.27.09

  • After a trade of huge proportions (yes that is an Ike Ndukwe joke), the Kansas City Chiefs are trying to find a place for the former Miami Dolphins', Andy Alleman and Ndukwe. Alleman lined up during practice today at Left Guard for the second team. Ndukwe lined up as the second team Right Tackle. Meanwhile, further evidence that we're lucky to be Miami fans this year, here is an in-depth analysis of both players by an academic, if not accurate, Chiefs fan/blogger.
  • Samson Satele was traded to the Oakland Raiders in late spring after having surgery to repair a torn labrum. I still wonder if his rough year in 2008 was a result of playing with that injury. While it wouldn't completely debilitate a blocker, it would make it hard to really drive an opponent back. Just an opinion - I'm no doctor. Still, now that he's returned from that injury, he's making mental mistakes. Raiders beatwriter, David White, writes, "RT Cornell Green and C Samson Satele with consecutive penalties in the red zone. And everyone thought getting rid of Kwame Harris would solve it. Cable's right: cutting penalties in half to 7 was better, but oh those 7 hurt." Wow, only seven in the half? that's like, less than 20 a game!
  • With all the Lex Hilliard talk lately, it's easy to forget about the OTHER Dolphins draft pick spent on a running back in 2008. Jalen Parmele looks to be edging out Ravens 6th round draftee, Cedric Peerman, for the final roster spot. Still, with names like McClain, McGahee, and Rice on the team, Parmele will have to play ALOT of special teams to get on the field..
  • Jacksonville ditched Matt Jones but welcomed back former below average wide receiver, Ernest Wilford. Just keep in mind that Wilford's best year was his 4th, when he had 45 catches for 518 yards and 3 touchdowns. Davone Bess had better production in his rookie year. Wilford's production isn't about to go up, either as he is in fact listed as a tight-end for Jacksonville. He is one of SIX tight-ends currently on their roster so he's actually no better off now than he was in Miami.
  • John Beck seemed to be SOL after a report that he broke his collarbone during a pre-season game. That report turned out to be a gross exaggeration, and Beck returned to practice with a 'shoulder strain'. Of course, in the meantime, Cam Cameron panicked and they signed Cleo Lemon and Drew Willy (giggle) on the same day. So now the Ravens have 5 QBs. Still, Beck is expected to win the coveted 3rd quarterback spot behind Joe Flacco and Troy Smith, and no, the Ravens will not be using Beck as a wild-cat QB.
  • In shocking NON-news, former Dolphin DE, Vonnie Holliday is still unsigned. Expect this to change if any of either New England or Green Bay's current line-up suffers an injury.
  • Former Dolphin full-back, and current Brokeback Mountain afficionado, Boomer Grigsby, has been released by the Houston Texans. He did an NFL Network segment along with several other players, all of whom have been cut. It's the NFL network curse.
  • Andre Goodman and Renaldo Hill both got pay raises to go gasp for air in Denver and are both healthy and both starting. I'm happy for Hill - maybe the thin air will help clear his head and improve his reaction time. Goodman, however, got an insane contract and will need to play at a 'mile-high' level for several years or else the fans will throw beaver pelts at him. There is good news though, as playing defense in Denver has been known to increase a player's career-length due to the lack of contact.....
  • The Titans waived Casey Cramer a year ago, allowing Miami to pick him up and make him their starting fullback in 2008. In 2009, they re-signed him and he is currently 2nd string. The good news is that Tennessee usually keeps two fullbacks.
  • Rob Ninkovich was cut by Miami, picked up and cut by New Orleans, and now resides at the bottom of the New England Patriots depth chart. The Derrick Burgess trade just about killed any chances he had of making the roster.
  • Chris Crocker has a secure foothold on the starting free-safety position for the Cincinnati Bengals, although the new episode of Hard Knocks is tonight and anything could happen for the sake of ratings.
  • UPDATE: The Jets just signed RB Anthony Kimble to replace injured rookie Shonn Greene. Kimble was waived by Miami three days ago.
I think it's a strange phenomenon that more times than not, the Miami Dolphins rejects (for lack of a better term) end up being held in much higher regard by other teams. Do you think this means we're better than them and these players are better than they're players? Or are we just not as good at recognizing talent as we think we are and that's why so many of our turned over players end up being successful for other teams?

41 comments:

  1. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

    Tin, I don't think we have to worry. Our head coach is an OL guy so I'll believe in Tony. LOL

    Personally I don't think we'll miss any of those players and that includes Vonnie who I like.

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  2. Knight, read this and see if you can explain any of it to me.
    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Diner-morning-news-picking-the-right-14.html
    it starts out as an argument with no one, and then devolves into a
    mathematical escapade through insanity.

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  3. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 3:00 PM

    Adam Schefter, of ESPN, reports Minnesota Vikings QB Brett Favre appears to have little support from teammates at this point, according to a league source. Favre has created a division within the locker room. Some players believe QB Tarvaris Jackson gives the team the best chance to win while others believe QB Sage Rosenfels gives them the best chance to win, according to sources.


    Awesome! LOL

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  4. It's a shame he had to mention Parcells in the article. in fact, if I were
    Parcells I'd write a cease and desist letter to Lombardi. Also, I think
    Lombardi should be forced to change his name.

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  5. eh, the same thing happened last year with the Jets. For those of us not
    wearing purple-coloured glasses, that team is not going to go anywhere with
    either Jackson or Rosenfels at the helm. In fact, after that game Rosenfels
    had versus the Colts last year, he should've been shipped off to Canada.
    And Jackson has NO arm at all and he's a slow decision maker. if Favre has
    any semblance of his arm left, he's the best choice (though if I were the
    Vikings GM, I wouldn't have even pondered Favre in the first place, but now
    that he's there...) though it really doesn't matter who the QB is anyway
    since it all lies on how the new Minnie O-line holds up and Peterson
    carrying the ball 32 times a game and if Harvin will be able to add the
    missing short passes to their gameplan.

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  6. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM

    I have a headache. LOL

    All teams carry 4 QBs and you should keep them on your 53 man roster? I happen to know of one team that definitely won't carry 4 QBs on the 53 man or the 61 man. Well I guess it's possible we could pick up a QB to put on the practice squad but we didn't carry a 4th there last year either.

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  7. Can you believe this guy ever had a job in a front office?

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  8. Lombardi headed the Oakland Raiders� and Cleveland Browns� personnel
    departments. This explains sooo much...

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  9. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    I was going to say maybe that's why he's a pundit now instead of being a GM of a team. It's not as if he's 80 years old. LOL

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  10. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM

    I have a few friends who are Vikings fans and none of them want Favre. But this is a team a QB away from being a challenger to get to the Super Bowl. I don't think Favre will get them there though. They'll fall short.

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  11. hmm...they would've been better off going after Cassel, Cutler, or even
    Garcia.
    Speaking of Garcia, more Oakland BS, they didn't even give him opportunity
    to compete with Russell. WTF do they think Russell is a franchise QB?

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  12. The Knight who says Ni!August 26, 2009 at 3:42 PM

    My Viking friends all wanted Cutler and they all agree they blew it not getting him.

    Russell sucks! I knew he'd be a bust from the beginning and the team that took him made a huge mistake. He can't read a defense and he's not that accurate. So what if he can throw the ball to the moon, there won't be anyone there to catch it. LOL

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  13. I have to say I watched Hard Knocks last week and it was ...interesting.  I hadn't seen it before and was wondering when the next episode was.  I'll have to set the TIVO. 

    But my favorite never before seen show was Keyshawn Johnson on A&E's Tackling Design.  :)

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  14. We Have PlaymakersAugust 26, 2009 at 5:55 PM

    Yes.  I think we're better than the teams you mentioned for the exception of the Titans but as you said they like to keep two fullbacks.  It's tough to argue with their success last year.

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  15. We Have PlaymakersAugust 26, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    Now that's an Avatar!!!  Or just a damn fine looking woman.  :)

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  16. Home SuperBowl 2010August 26, 2009 at 9:12 PM

    Lemmus
    Left U a post on previous blog as a response to your very weird accusations
    That is the truth, my new friend
    Sorry to hear about your disheartening death of your daughter
    but your reading way to much into this dilemma

    Lets move forward and enjoy the best Dolphin season in 35 years
    Be Happy

    If  U see me go off on a rant
    Please remember it is only in fun
    If attacked, I usually strike back in sarcastic forceful humor
    Not personal
    Just Business

    Again sorry to hear about your loss

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  17. Home SuperBowl 2010August 26, 2009 at 10:08 PM

    Back to more current predictions:

    Dolphins win over bucs by 7 or more
    Total points combined teams score wll be over 40

    line is bucs -2 1/2
    over is 35


    and Gold will make new highs of over  $1040  pror to play offs

    ***** The DYNASTY BE FINS! *****

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  18. hsb,

     you post on the last article does it for me i understand now. i thought you were acting kinda weird on the ss but now that i know you got hacked it all makes sense.

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  19. tin,
    When do you think your preview will be out. its like people have no lives these days. the only thing they can do to amuse themselves is to down other people on a football blog. now they are addin tonydatiger to the list of who is the biggest loser. kno you prob dont care just a lil amusing the someone is as simpleminded as they are. lol

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  20. tony's another one who i think is being impostered(?). For a whole year he
    was a nice guy (to me at least) and then all of a sudden he started being
    really mean. I don't want to generalize because I barely ever go to the SS
    anymore so I don't know if he's really like that or if it was just a couple
    of bad days that I happened to come by.
    I am working on the preview now, having issues with finding something good
    to say about the Bucs...

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    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;">Tin, I don’t think we are necessarily a better team than those others you mention or that they have better player evaluators.<span>  </span>I think it comes down to the turn over in our front office over the last few years. Each regime has had a different vision of how the team should be made up. (Cameron wanted a quick fast striking team, the trifecta wants a big jam it down your throat team)<span>  </span>So good players have been let go over the last decade because they were the “last guys guy”<span>  </span>Now that we have a stable front office with a vision of the team they want to put on the field you will see less of this.<span>  </span></span>
    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;"> </span>
    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;">Now there will still be guys that don’t make our squad that could be very good players because of the numbers game.<span>  </span>As I said in a post earlier this week you will see some of our cast offs playing with / being signed but not playing with N.E. again this year.<span>  </span>Look how many of our ex players played in the NE / NY super bowl a couple of years ago.<span>  </span></span>

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    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;">Tin, I don’t think we are necessarily a better team than those others you mention or that they have better player evaluators.<span>  </span>I think it comes down to the turn over in our front office over the last few years. Each regime has had a different vision of how the team should be made up. (Cameron wanted a quick fast striking team, the trifecta wants a big jam it down your throat team)<span>  </span>So good players have been let go over the last decade because they were the “last guys guy”<span>  </span>Now that we have a stable front office with a vision of the team they want to put on the field you will see less of this.<span>  </span></span>
    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;"> </span>
    <p><span style=" font-family: Arial;">Now there will still be guys that don’t make our squad that could be very good players because of the numbers game.<span>  </span>As I said in a post earlier this week you will see some of our cast offs playing with / being signed but not playing with N.E. again this year.<span>  </span>Look how many of our ex players played in the NE / NY super bowl a couple of years ago.<span>  </span></span>

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  23. Why does all that crap come up when you cut and paste a post?

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  24. I am bias, but I like my avitar better!! LOL

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  25. tin,
    thats not a bad thing. Why do you have to say something nice about the bucs. i say off with there head. lol  at this point does j allen make the team or does joey thomas?

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  26. The Knight who says Ni!August 27, 2009 at 7:26 AM

    Tin, tony as in tonydatiger hasn't been on the SS in awhile and he just showed up recently and doesn't fit the mean spirited guy profile you're talking about. He seems to be the same guy he always was. But I can't really confirm that obviously.

    The SS is running rampant with trolls (troll) recently so thanks again for the alternative.  :-D

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  27. what did you cut and paste? looks like a word doc? word does that. may i
    suggest using notepad?

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  28. " i say off with there head."
    Should've said 'walk the plank!'
    I'm sure some retarded beat writer will say the Bucs are about to 'swim with
    the fishes'.
    Jason Allen, definitely. Thomas had one good day of practice. Allen is
    much better gamer.

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  29. this particular clash was about a month ago, maybe longer. I have not been
    reading the comments (to be honest, I haven't been reading the blogs either
    very much. I've cut down to about twice a week.)

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  30. Tin,
    Do you think there is anyway that j Allen can beat out Nate jones for the starting nickel spot or do you think they have different plans?
    Sent from my iPhone

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  31. The Knight who says Ni!August 27, 2009 at 7:48 AM

    If you can just make everything plain or basic text, no formatting of any kind.

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  32. Alex, I don't think Nate Jones will make the team.

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  33. Tin,
    So basically you have j allen, w Allen, s smith, v Davis, who's the last db? Joey Thomas? Why do you think Nate jones doesn't make the team?
    Sent from my iPhone

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  34. Alex, I think they'll either keep an extra safety or pick up a free agent or
    waived player.
    Jones played about as well as Eric Green last week, and has missed one too
    many tackles for me to be confident in him. Even little Will Billingsley
    has been making his tackles. I have no patience for missed tackles.

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  35. tin,

    Lol i mean are you think joey thomas is going to make the team or is he just a filler? and who do we keep charlie anderson, waldin or moses?

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  36. alex, I already answered both those questions....lol
    PREVIEW: Dolphins vs Buccaneers, including why I hate the Bucs
    http://tinsfins.blogspot.com/2009/08/preview-pre-season-game-3-miami-vs.html

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  37. tin,

    im sad now  you befuddled me lol 8-) . time to read the new article.

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  38. You asked me if Jason Allen or Joey Thomas would make the team, i said Jason
    Allen.
    Then you asked I said I was leaning towards keeping Moses and Walden, then
    you asked me if I was going to keep Walden, Moses or Anderson. I'm the one
    who should be befuddled!

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  39. tin, my bad then we both were. im at work so half the time i was replying from my iphone thru email cause some reason it wont let me post thru safari. but i see what you are saying. my bad.

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  40. I had outlook open so I typed it as an e-mail and then cut and pasted it.  I think Outlook does use Word as it's bones.  I'll just do my spell check the old fasion way. You guys can live with my poor spelling.  LOL

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  41. how did I miss this on the day?  before long the avatars will be oiled up and wrestling in a plastic pool....

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