Monday, August 10, 2009

Training Camp - Day 8

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I had a good 'day off' yesterday. I completely avoided football for a whole 24 hours! Needless to say, it's all I needed to be refreshed and ready to go today. There are two-a-days today and tomorrow, with the Wednesday afternoon practice moved to 8pm to simulate night conditions. I expect another huge crowd on site for that one.

And don't forget, we're only one week away from the first pre-season game. Can you feel the excitement? I didn't watch the HOF game, but saw some highlights and I think it's fair to say that the Bills still suck, and that the Titans tight end, Crumpler, is in worse shape than I am....and pretty much anybody I know.
  • The Dolphins have made two roster moves: New wide receiver in the mix, replacing the recently injured Marion. The new guy is James Robinson, a former CFL player. At 6'3", 193lbs he sounds like he's a string bean. The other move was the new fullback, Matt Quillen, has apparently quit the team. That makes him the 4th guy to lose the passion in week 1.
  • Matt Roth is still not practicing. Rosendouche said in his weekly radio spot that Roth will beat out Jason Taylor for the starting spot. You can't beat anyone if you don't get in the ring, Drew. If Roth is not up to speed by the 2nd pre-season game, someone like Tearrius George, who wasn't expected to make the 53, will have to be kept around for insurance purposes.
  • Sean Smith is up with the ones opposite Will Allen today. Of course, Miami Herald's Jeff Darlington immediately tweeted an implication that Smith is now ahead of Green in the competition. These guys just don't get it. You must have to have no concept in order to get a job at the Herald.
  • Everyone likes to focus on the 'big' wide receivers in the AFC East and how to gameplan against them, but there's really only 2 or 3 of them, plus, other than Brady, are there any Quarterbacks in the division that could take advantage of great receivers? Trent Edwards fails to impress me everytime I see him, and Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez are doing their best not to impress. I really like our chances versus division foes. As long as we can contain the Jets running game and special teams, I see two wins right there. I know we only play them twice but maybe we can squeeze three wins out of the Bills. ;)
  • I tried to post the final section of the 1986 fins/jets game over the weekend, but somehow only had part 1 on my home computer. I will post it today. I have more classic videos in the works, and I plan on youtube-ing some stuff during the pre-season - I'll keep you informed.
  • Today's afternoon practice has been moved inside the bubble, so no go for fans.
  • Omar Kelly reports that the new WR, Robinson, ran a 4.29 in his workout for the Dolphins.

  • I'm a bit disappointed in the Sun-Sentinel today. First Mike B doesn't know what day it is (or he was invited to a secret underground practice on Sunday), then Omar boasts about his being 'on target' with all his pre-training camp predictions. First of all, we just finished week one. Secondly, how can you have a competition for the slot receiver position between Bess, Camarillo, Ginn, Turner, London and Armstrong? And why does he keep insisting that Cam Wake is a strongside LB? (sigh) well at least Omar's Twitter is working again (oh man, that sounded so gay!).
  • From Twitter: OmarKellyQuote of the day? When I asked Sun-Sentinel columnist @EthanJSkolnick which Dolphins are hurt? His reply: "Phillip Merling's feelings." - real clever guys. Can you tell us what is going on at camp instead of making retarded jokes and dissing on the Dolphins?
  • Vonnie Holliday is working out for the Patriots today. Here we go again....
  • Unbelievable! I just updated the depth chart and posted it and the Dolphins go and sign another player - this time a kicker by the name of Connor Barth. The surprising thing is that the contract is for TWO years. Barth is not known as a deep kick-off specialist, so this suggests that an actual kicking competition is about to occur between Barth and Dan Carpenter, the incumbent.
  • According to Armando Salguero, Chris Clemons had two interceptions and a pass deflection in the afternoon practice.
  • According to Jeff Darlington, Tom Brady's cameo on the tv show, Entourage...oh who gives a flying f...
  • Apparently the reporters have taken the night off. I guess I'll call it a day too. Ciao!


  1. <span style="">Wow 4 players quit in one week. That is crazy. TS must be putting it to these guys in practice. I am surprised to see that it has taken this long to find a player under a rock to replace Marion. JI must be slipping or something, Rogers and Kilmer has not been replaced yet. I thought these guys had a book on potential candidates that were under rocks. Let’s go JI flip those rocks!!!</span>

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    <span style="">On another note, I went to Lions Training Camp on Friday and Saturday. That was the first time I had ever been to a Training Camp. I would recommend it to everyone  to see a Pro Team in Training Camp if they get a chance. News on Ex Dolphin Daunte Culpepper, he has slimmed down, keeps under throwing receivers and seems to be his normal out for me and taking short cuts whenever possible. Calvin Johnson is a BEAST!! He looked like a man playing amongst boys out there. Then again it is the Lions so it probably is true. LOL</span>

  2. They won't replace Kilmer, they'll just move Jason Allen back to safety -
    I doubt they'll replace Rogers at this point. They have Ndukwe, Garner,
    Gardner all playing Tackle beside Long and Carey. In a pinch they can use
    Haynos on 3rd team. The new WR sounds like the fodder underneath the camp
    fodder. being released by a CFL team is not a good sign.
    I took Johnson off my FF ranking top ten because I don't think the QBs are
    good enough for him to have a good year.

  3. Oh, btw, I'll be attending MY first training camp tomorrow, going to watch
    the Sacramento....oh nevermind.

  4. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:15 AM

    Funny stuff! These sports reporters apparently don't listen to Sparano when he answers them or tells them something. Don't read too much into the depth chart at this time. But they can't do it.

    As for the SOLB spot, Moses is actually the one making the most noise behind JT, not George. As of right now Moses has a good shot to make the team. The 3-4 defense needs good OLBs and depth. With JT turning 35 and Porter 32 years old, I would expect us to keep at least 5 OLBs if not 6.

  5. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM

    Ralph, I think we might be holding a spot or two open for some cuts. Rookie free agents we liked or late round draft picks that we had on our board may be available in a couple of weeks.

  6. Well I think I said 'guys LIKE T. george' because as usual I can never
    remember Moses' name. I don't know why that is, I have a good memory
    normally, but this guy's info must be stored in my brain's vacuum cleaner

  7. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:33 AM


  8. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:34 AM

    Frye is also playing some LT today. He's another guy along with Gardner, not Garner, who Sparano says has good left tackle feet.

  9. I am sure that Jason has his move back to Safety in the back of his mind. It would be the worse thing that could happen to him.

    I would agree that Johnson should not be in the top 10 in FF but I would think that he is the number 3 WR that could be taken late 2nd or early 3rd.

    Speaking of which how many people play FF on here? Do we have enough to make a league?

  10. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM

    If Jason Allen doesn't pick it up at corner soon I think he's gone. I don't think they'll keep him as a safety. They already determined he's not a safety in their mind.

  11. I'm rubbish at it, as shown by my 4-12 record last year, but if anyone here
    has a league I'd join up.

  12. I did my preliminary 53 and JA made the cut. I had space for two special
    teamers and kept Walden and Allen.

  13. That does sound about right. Plus with a few roster spots open it gives the coaches more reps to look at the competing guys and rooks.

  14. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 8:51 AM

    I did mine too and JA didn't make it. He's been stuck playing mostly 3rd team and even though depth charts don't mean much at this time, he should have played more with the ones and twos. It doesn't look good so far.

  15. True. He was my 52nd or 53rd player, but had to choose between him and
    Nathan Jones as the final DB. I kept 5 CBs and 4 safeties.

  16. Home is probably the most annoying poster I've ever encountered.  Worse than "fan".  Does he have tourettes?  It would explain all the irrational outbursts and the constant repitition.  I also get the feeling he doesn't care for Sean Smith much....

  17. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM

    Tin, then you had Green not making the team. I think he will. I also have 5 CBs and 4 safeties. It is possible we keep 6 CBs and 10 DBs.

    This Robinson kid sure is fast. 4.29 is pretty freakin fast.

  18. "I also get the feeling he doesn't care for Sean Smith much...."
    noticed, noticed, AND noticed...

  19. I did have Green making the team...

  20. How did you manage to keep 6 CBs? I found the whole exercise tougher than I
    imagined. I added up all the starters and "locks" and I suddenly only had 5
    or 6 spots left.

  21. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 9:47 AM

    Oh, I read you wrong. I thought you said you had JA and Nathan Jones as the final DBs.

    We could go with 6 CBs if we don't go with 9 OL, 6 WR or 9 LBs which is what I had. This was my breakdown.

    DL 7
    LB 9
    DB 9

    OL 9
    TE 3
    QB 3
    RB 4
    WR 6

    K 1
    P 1
    LS 1

  22. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    I've asked Home many times if he does coke, drinks massive amounts of caffeine or what. LOL

  23. hmm..I had the exact same breakdown except I had 5 WR. One of us has added
    wrong.probably me.

  24. holy crap, I just counted and I'm only at 52! Someone just got lucky...

  25. The Knight who say Ni!August 10, 2009 at 10:05 AM

    The reason I have 6 WRs is because most of our WRs can play special teams. I'm not sure we'll ask Camarillo to do that this year, at least early on, and I'm not sure that Patrick Turner players special teams but the rest of the WRs do.

    So who just got lucky? Nate Jones and the 6 CB 10 DB scenario or did you go 6 WR?

  26. I was thinking of maybe saving Andrew Gardner from the practice squad.
    Truth is, I don't think I need both Nate Jones and Jason Allen. I'm going
    to stick with 5 WR right now because I'm hoping to see more passes to
    Ronnie/Ricky/Cobbs as well as continued use of the tight-ends, PLUS more
    running. MORE RUNNING!!
    In any event, only 4 WRs would be active on game day anyway.

  27. I'm going with bi-polar.  Fine one minute, confrontational the next. I'm thinking some medication might help him. 

  28. SPARANO who,I've been tellin you gyz he (GARDNER) has left tackle feet since b/4 the draft...
    Now,I have to start listening to myself,thanx for the encouragemant TS!! LOL!!

    What number did they issue to Robinson??

  29. I think there may be an imposter(attempting belittlement),@least that's what I'm hoping..
    IF NOT, someone has a severe case of Bi-Polarism,tourette's(as suggested)is also a possibility..

    I wanted to shut him up,but didn't want to encourage the possible imposter!!

  30. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    I have Andrew Gardner making the team. He is one guy who I think will get plucked if we expose him to the PS. The trifecta values OTs highly and they really like this kid. We protected Murphy last year and I think we'll do the same with Gardner. He's the #9 OL in my opinion. Having some versatility with Berger, Frye and Ndukwe allows this to happen though I only think one of the two between Frye and Ndukwe make the team.

  31. I think NJones(who I like) is the odd man out(o10 FA),and we keep 6 WR's(3 BIGG,3 w'speed and/or seperation skills)..  PT,BL,BH and TG,DB,GC

  32. FRYE has been a fav of mine since his early college days...

  33. I guess that means you dropped Nate Garner and/or Andy Alleman?
    The problem with Gardner is that his body isn't ready for 2009. So, they
    could do the same thing as they did with Murphy, as you just mentioned. Or
    they might risk the PS. He definitely won't be active in the first half of
    the season if he makes the roster, so who is your backup tackle?

  34. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 11:11 AM

    Backup tackle Berger and Frye/Ndukwe, and I don't have both Alleman and Murphy making the team.

  35. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    You think? LOL

    That 'fan' guy has us all fooled using a different name every time he asks 'the question' doesn't he? LOL

  36. Berger, Frye AND Ndukwe at Tackle? these guys all played guard last
    year...sounds kinda risky.

  37. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Berger can play tackle, Frye is being worked at LT as we speak and Ndukwe has been working almost exclusively at OT in camp. Ndukwe replaced Long at LT when he got hurt for a series or two.

    Then there is the option of keeping 10 OL like those in the media have suggested.

  38. I have us keeping 10(JL,DT,JG,JS,VC),and Gardner,Allaman,Berger,Murphy,Frye...

    I had IKE,and GARNER ahead of MURPHY till this past week,so who know's IF he keeps-up the pace,I like IKE IF NOT..

  39. Oppps got DT and JS in reverse...

  40. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers WR Isaac Bruce (eye) sat out of 11-on-11 drills Monday, Aug. 10, after being poked in the eye. To add insult to injury, head coach Mike Singletary was eating a hard-boiled egg, and when applying salt to the egg he accidentally tossed some of the salt in the same eye Issac Bruce injured earlier.


  41. <p>Glad to see Sean Smith taking some reps with the first team, however I'm disappointed in Eric Green's camp so far. As I have mentioned before I still believe Eric Green will be the opening day starter opp Will Allen. I just expected Eric Green from a couple of years ago: aggressive, quick, and physical. The Green we have is reportedly having trouble keeping up with even Greg Camarillo on a 9 route. This is just not expectable.

  42. great, now I have to go google the santa rosa press democrat...
    Knight, I can't comment on SS today, please go tell that Evan C. guy he just
    came up with the worst idea of the day and explain to him why you don't move
    a pass rusher to ILB.

  43. The Green pick up was a shocking disappointment to me, especially because at
    the time I thought it meant we wouldn't draft one or two of the top CB
    prospects, of which the 2009 Draft was quite strong. I saw him play at
    Arizona a few times and he STOOD OUT as being slow to react and easy to beat
    at the LOS. I didn't see him play a couple years ago so I guess I missed
    the good years.

  44. <p>Also remember...
    <p>Quinton Mosses is quoted as saying that he learned more from Jason Taylor than from anyone else in the organization back in '07. With Roth still sporting the baseball cap, could he be in danger, with 1 year left on his contract, of being traded for some help at RG or RDE. The same applies for David Martin. Sparano spoke out in favor for Wilfork, his attitude and presence, while Nalbone is showing why the division 2 TE was drafted by the Phins.

  45. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    LOL, will do.  :-D

  46. You can't trade an injured player.
    I don't think Martin's in any trouble. He is a hard-worker and a team first
    guy and the best runner at TE. The Dolphins love to run that double TE
    cross play, and they need a speedy guy for the deep route.

  47. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    vic107m, I don't think the Dolphins are looking outside for help at RDE or RG. Matt Roth will not be traded.

  48. I know lemmus will disagree but I think we have enough options at RG as it
    is right now without bringing in another unknown. I wouldn't be surprised if
    they brought in another D-lineman though.

  49. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    I don't think we'll bring in another DL unless we get an injury.

  50. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:44 PM

    Matt Maiocco, of The Santa Rosa Press Democrat, reports San Francisco 49ers RB Glen Coffee (ankle) did not participate in morning practice Monday, Aug. 10, because of a sore ankle.

    How does coffee not participate in anything morning? 

  51. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    vic, it's Quentin Moses.

  52. I tell you what, if I don't have my morning coffee, I don't participate

  53. ah now I have my OWN blog, I can say, "hiss, boo, grammar/spelling police!!
    hmm....oddly enough I got no satisfaction out of that...

  54. Just read the Fields/Carpenter story on I think my
    browser accidentally deleted part of the story, because I never found out
    what the 'creative' way of 'finding competitive juices' was....

  55. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    Strange entity crawling up her leg and covering up the yum yum place.

    Check out the two models on picture 7.,0,2209136.photogallery

  56. picture 7 is stephen ross...what a let down!

  57. The Knight who says Ni!August 10, 2009 at 1:11 PM


  58. Life after Disney :)   Came back to earth last night and have seen nothing about camp since I reported to all of you, Thanks for the posting of my 2 cents Tin.  I don't think J. Allen will make the team either.  To bad, he seemed to play well in the games, quite a few picks for the time he was on the field.  My quess is he's really lost out there on the field and doesn't get it.  I really can't say.

    Trying to guess who the starters are at this time makes no sence, because it's no more than speculation at this time.  I'll say this the team lines up in a certain order when they do things like stretching.  Defense on one side offensive directly across from them with a gap in between.  Most not all the players in the center between the 2 sides are the number 1s for that day. So if Home can send us that photo look for the guys down the center of the field and there you have the # 1s.

    Many times players just look normal unless they do something that stands out like a big run, long ball for a TD, broken up pass or pic, or what clearly would be a sack.  But there is limited contact with little or no one hitting the ground on any play.  So everything is toned down to maybe 3/4 speed.  I mention this because how anyone can tell you how players look based on that criteria is a stretch. 

    So it's best not to get all caught up in the public opinion polls, that reporters give us because that's all they can really give us is an opinion.  They know no more than any of us.  I apperciate what they give us through their eyes, but we have to keep in mind it is what they see not what we all see.

  59. With that said, they were tackling today in goal line drills.

  60. Did you see the tentative roster/depth chart MB posted at the SS?

  61. nope...
    anything of interest? did he put a baseball player on it?

  62. lol, well Pat White is on it!  He played baseball.

    He didn't actually say WHO handed it to him. 

    Need more recipes!  In your spare time.  Wait, this is your spare time.  Do it at work!

  63. About Holliday.  Maybe he is trying the Jason Taylor form of negotiating?  Talk to NE, come back to the Dolphins, where lets face it, is where he wants to be, IMO.