Thursday, April 22, 2010

New Dolphin - Jared Odrick, DL

"As a junior at Lebanon High, Jared Odrick would go to school, head over to track practice, then rush home to do his homework. Instead of propping his feet up on the recliner in front of the TV and calling it a night, Odrick went back to school from 7 to 9 p.m. to hit the weight-room.

Most nights, he was the only kid there.

"We had somebody come in at night," Head Coach Bill Giovino said. "Jared wanted to do it."

Such commitment is telling of a man refusing to settle for less than his potential."`Nate Mink, The Daily Collegian.

BOB FLOUNDERS, The Patriot-News writes:

The Miami Dolphins selected Penn State's standout defensive lineman in the first round, 28th overall, in the NFL draft Thursday night.

Odrick, a three-year starter for Joe Paterno's Nittany Lions and the 2009 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year, can play tackle or end and will likely do both for Miami's organization, which is run by Bill Parcells, the former head coach of the New York Giants, Jets, New England Patriots and Dallas Cowboys. The Dolphins' head coach is Tony Sparano.

The 6-5, 305-pound Odrick, a Lebanon High School graduate, led all PSU defensive linemen in tackles last season with 43. Despite constant double-teaming, Odrick recorded 11 tackles for loss, 7 of them sacks.

"I like [Odrick] a lot,'' said former Tampa Bay head coach Jon Gruden in his role of analyst on ESPN's draft coverage.

"I've seen him play defensive tackle in a nickel [defense], defensive end in a base. When he comes off the ball, he can bull rush. He's a problem inside.''

Odrick, who attended the draft Thursday night in New York City with his family, was considered by some draft experts to be the third-best tackle prospect available, behind Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh and Oklahoma's Gerald McCoy.

He started his PSU career as a defensive end but moved inside during his sophomore year of 2007. Odrick can play tackle in a 4-3 and is also projected as an end in a 3-4.

Miami plays a 3-4 defense and will be without projected starting nose tackle Jason Ferguson for the first eight games in the fall. Ferguson, 35, was suspended by the league for using a performance enhancing drug.

Miami's defensive line rotation includes Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling and Randy Starks.

End. Tackle. Maybe even a series or two at nose tackle. Odrick could do a little bit of everything for Miami. Just like he did at Penn State.

"There's a lot of things that Odrick does [well], using his hands, and clubbing people, getting them out of the way,'' Gruden said.

"This guy is relentless, he plays on an every-down basis and rarely gets tired. I think Odrick is a perfect Bill Parcells-type player. When he hits the quarterback, they go down hard.''



  1. So he starts where we ALREADY had viable starters(3-4 DE's/4-3 DTs)
    or he's a 1st rnd bkup that play's NOSE ,or DT,or DE once in a while along w'Merling pk 32 2nd rnd!!!

    Either way it doesn't add-up to 3 down guy in the FIRST RND AGAIN!!

    UNLESS ODRICK become's a TRUE NT(or we draft one),and ODRICK supplants an already VIABLE starter KLangford (ANOTHER EARLY PK) that loses playin time!!! PRETTY SURE STARKS STARTS/EXCEL'S EVERY DOWN!!!

    ORRR ODRICK and the others take turns @NT,AGAIN leaving some HIGH draft pk twiddeling his thumbs on the bench!!!
    And NOWW it's likely we end-up w'bkup type OLBs to replace JP/JT!!  GIVE ME KOA MISI in the 2nd,or RSAPP 3rd!!

    but I just wanted a 1st rnd pk @ a position where we PRESENTLY have NO VIABLE CURRENT STARTERS!!!

    DON'T KNOW HOW we're going to fill those voids w'second tier gyz,
    (UNLESS we get TBRADY type LUCKY @OLB , maybe twice)!! 
    LOTSA FS's, but OLBs thin ALREADY after 1 rnd,and we STILL need a LEGIT NT, KR, etc,etc,etc!!! 

    When I'm discouraged ( the ETERNAL OPTOMISTS), there's reason for concern!!
    WE NEED 3 down players NOWWWWWWWWWWW,
    w'out possibly having to bench anymore current VIABLE STARTERS/EARLYPKS!!   GOFINS!!

    I can't count on both hands & feet how many early pks we've WASTED since PAYIN for RW,
    and then his unscheduled retirement!! 

  2. NOTTTT saying ODRICK's not a good player,(I think he'll supplant someone as a starter)!!
    Just think that his pk minimizes the value to us of 08 EARLY pks Merling 32,and Langford 66!!
    GOTTA THINK that some FIN DLineman are suddenly on the trading block for 2nght??


  3. Wow.
    I managed to stay awake until thew Fins were on the clock at a few minutes before 2am local time and they traded the pick. Grrrrrrrrrrr. That signalled shut-eye time.
    Actually, I'm pleased. Sure, we've lost a few players this year, but how many 7-9 teams don't need some more churning? So far, on the upgrade front, we have Dansby, Marshall, Odrick, our second round pick went from 11 to 8 and we still have 9 picks remaining, with Dobbins as a bonus. It's difficult at this stage to argue we aren't going to get a lot younger and a lot better this year. I can't wait to see how we look in action (and healthy) already.
    Reading Ireland's comments, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we traded down again from the top 10 in rd 2 for more picks. Actually, nothing would suprise me too much in this draft anymore.
    The only thing I'm not looking forward to is the Pats having 3 picks in rd 2.

  4. I wasn't really sure what to think about drafting Odrick last night. But, after watching the vid Tin posted I feel a lot more positive about this guy! He comes across as confident, thoughtful and is obviously is a guy with a ton of good character, oh yeah, he can play football, too!

  5. uk, the Pats attention last night was taken up by their swap with Denver. Today is another draft day and I will be watching NE to see if they intend to jump in just in front of us like they did last year!

  6. Dobbins looks like he was picked up for his special team skills AND to push Ch-owder! Good! I think there's a move on to clean up the locker room from the remnants of PasstheBaloney, JP and JT!

  7. Uk, I actually managed to stay awake till 4.30 - tho only because i'm not in work today!

    I really like the Odrick pick - him and Starks rushing the passer from the inside will be giving teams fits - still leaves us with needs to fill

    I really can see them taking Taylor Mays in the second today, not that i'm a fan of his at all, but i'm sure Nolan would love to get his hands on a safety that big and fast

  8. ...and Ronnie Brown and Crowder are the last holdovers from Saban's 2005 draft!

  9. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 6:46 AM

    Okay, so I still don't know what the plan is. Will Starks move inside and play more NT with Odrick and Soliai rotating? One thing for sure is we're building a dominant DL.

    Where do we go in the 2nd round - OLB Koa Misi or Ricky Sapp?

  10. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 6:48 AM

    Bringing this guy Dobbins in, do you think maybe Crowder moves to SOLB?

  11. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 6:49 AM

    At least we draft ahead of the Pats in the 2nd round. We went from #43 to #40 now.

  12. Tim, I haven't a clue, but one things for sure, there's still a lot of talent left out there.

  13. I'd like to see him at SOL! LOL

  14. Canam - glad they didn't muddy the waters for us and I don't see a rookie corner stopping Marshall for a few years yet (if at all)! lol
    They may try to get in front of us, but I still think we may trade down again and get more picks?

  15. Well we went from JP and JT to JO.  Wow what an improvement !!!  Not a position of need I know, but most likely the best player availible.

    Also the Tim Dobbins move was great.  He is a back up ILB with 51 tck, 1 ff, 1 sack, 1 int.
    take a look at Crowders #s  as a starter.   51 tck, 0 ff, 1 sack, 1 int.
    Tell me who the back up is now ?  Our starting safeties had 207 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 0 ints between them, our starting ILB had 122 tackles, 1 sack, 1 int, and 1 fumble.
    With 2 subtractions and 2 additions to the LB crew this year, The Miami Dolphins are much better already and they have 9 picks to go.

    So far this year our draft looks like B Marshall, J Odrick, T Dobbins.  Ladies and Gentlemen that looks plenty good to me...

  16. Be interested to see how many LBs Miami ends up with!

  17. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 7:05 AM

    Absolutely! I'd say OLB and S are next.

  18. Wow. Hardcore! I'm in work in body, but only just in mind, which is more on tonight!

    I was thinking about the pick at lunchtime - with Nolan on board and all these big bodied guys, I wonder if we may see some of the NE type looks where they just line one player up on the d-line and have a gang of players waiting for the starting pistol lined up a few yards back. Imagine if you're a QB and you see Starks, McDaniel, Odrick, Wake, Dansby, Crowder and our new OLB out there revving their engines? Kind scary? I think and hope watching our D could be fun this year?

    Making predictions on the Trifecta mindset is not an easy thing to get right ;)

  19. Only three people (and their three stooges who make the war room up to 6) know what the plan is. There may still be a Pat White moment waiting to delight us in this draft yet? These 2 tweets made me chuckle last night though (signs in the war room):

    <span>"For the next three days we are going to draft prototypical players that play football well in their pads on the football field."</span>
    <span>"Mascot players, pet cats and other favorites wait until late on Saturday" ... Parcells apparently likes that one </span>
    <span>Maybe they don't want to get bitten twice after all?</span>

  20. Amazing how quick these guys can do a refit huh?

  21. I think Parcell's will definitely maximize this kid's value. A versatile NT in the 1st and another NT in rounds 4-6 possibly? Doubling up on needs?

    Plus we have yet to see Tim Dobbins excel in Nolan's D Schemes.

    I really feel like the belly aching is getting a little redic. Besides, you can only pick Pat White once. So that is behind us.

  22. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 7:27 AM

    Or maybe we're going to 4-3. Who the phuck knows! I'm actually in Florida now visiting family and friends.  8-)

  23. I suspect (and I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first time!) that we are starting to build up a pool of the type of personnel where we can be really creative on both sides of the ball. Nolan seems to like mixing it up and we re-invented the WC on Offense - factor in Marshall and A. N. Other possibly. I can see Miami being very difficult to prepare for and not many teams wanting to play this big team from "the land that time forgot?"

  24. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 7:37 AM

    When you get right down to it, it's abut matchups. It's nice to be able to put a name to a position and say there you go. But at the end of the day, it's about hats on hats and matchups.

  25. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 7:39 AM

    <span>Hey bro, not to be weird or anything but you look like me about 15 years ago.</span>

  26. Hey Tim, how weird do you think I feel? I am gonna look like you in 15 years! Phew... >:o

  27. And mismtaches. Confusion and misdirection are important too. Having versatile players allowing more creativity can result in 2 on 1 situations leaving another unblocked!

  28. Tim The EnchanterApril 23, 2010 at 7:52 AM

    LOL, don't worry, the horns only hurt the first few days. LOL

    It's mainly the hair. Your picture freaked me out because there is a picture of me that looks like that picture you're using.

  29. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 8:05 AM

    This is a very surprising pick.  If he's not a NT, then I've got to believe that Merling has got to be on the trading block or we're going to have the one of the deepest & best DE rotations in the NFL.  I think it's odd that we would just give up on Merling after two years.  But regardless of whether we keep merling or not, is Odrick even going to start for us this year.  Starks is staying @ RE & I'd be pretty shocked if Odrick came in & took over for Langford.

    I really don't like how cyrptic Ireland is about where he is going to play.  The pick is in so there's no need to bluff.  They obviously drafted him to be a DE or a NT so why can't he let us know???

  30. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 8:07 AM

    BTW--The Bills just got a big time football player.  I don't like him going to a team that we have to play twice a year.

  31. Agreed! Is he trying to tell us that he made that pick unilaterally and now Sparano and Nolan just have to deal with it? I don't think so,

  32. Jared Odrick is a great player, ultimately it's not Odrick vs #12... We're getting Odrick+#40 instead of 12. I Can't complain about getting two top 40 players. I think at #40 we could be looking at Kindle/Griffen/Allen... there are some other players but it seems like those would make a lot of sense unless they're gone. So we still have a good chance to turn that #12 into 1 need and 1 bpa. If that's the case it's pretty win win. I'm really interested to see how the rest of this plays out though, it's hard to truly judge the pick until we see the rest of the draft, let alone the 2nd half of the deal(pick 40).

  33. What if he thinks he can play NT, is gonna try him there... but if he can't be a nose still loves him as a value pick at end, while moving inside on passing downs. I suspect they're gonna try some things with him and don't know for a fact they'll work out so they're not gonna tell all us so we don't know if he does play somewhere else, it wasn't their 1st choice for him.

  34. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM


    He's a sneaky little pr#ck who wouldn't even be here if it weren't for Parcells.  On a personal note, I don't like the guy.  He has very little to no personality.  Not saying that he needs to have one but it would be nice.  I trust Parcells b/c he has built wiining teams before.  When Parcells leaves, it's just going to be this worm & who knows how good this guy really is??? 

    BTW--I've got to believe that this pick & the trade for Tim Dobbins just shook up a bunch of Dolphin players.  If we trade a DE or an ILB & it turns out that's why he's not showing his hand then I'll send Jeff an apology email.

  35. Starks to NT on some 1st/2nd downs seems pretty obvious (depending on what true NT we draft either tonight or tomorrow morning).

    ALso, the heat is going to be brought on 3rd and long....

    Merling, Odrick, Starks, and Langford on the line w/ Wake and Dansby threating to blitz.... Good luck to whoever that QB is

    Odrick was clearly the top player on their draft board at 28.... and of course I love getting Marshall for only 1 2nd round pick now!

  36. It wasn't too far back when we were all wondering if Merling, Starks, or even Dotson would be converted to NT.......Love the trade down, Dobbins is actually a steal, and Crowder might be gone.  I'm thinking they finish cleaning house after the draft....Maybe bye-bye Torbor, Crowder?  If we snag a CB maybe Allen?  I forgot we can dump bloated salaries this year.......

    Great 1st round!  If there wasn't intrigue surrounding the pick we'd have nothing to talk about....and just be thankful it wasn't Tebow and now there's no way we can get Tebow....I was really scared...!

  37. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 8:47 AM


    I feel the same way.  I'm just surprised with the uncertainty of "maybe" filling a need  in the first round with a bunch of really good OLB's on the board.   Since I'm a fan & not a GM, it's hard to swallow BPA instead of immediate need.

  38. I think it's funny that NE and NYJ both went DB, could that be a reaction to Miami getting Marshall?

  39. I hear ya, but maybe they really like a different OLB/OLBer's who will be there at #40 or at a later spot. That's why it's tough to truly judge this pick until everything plays out.

  40. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 8:56 AM


    I don't think so.  We tried Starks at NT two years ago & he was not great.  He's a DE & even more importantly the best DE we have so I don't see why we'd move him.  I like the number of big bodies that we have on defense but filling the NT so we can plug the middle is ESSENTIAL for a running a successful 3-4.  In other words we need "a grunt."

    I believe that the true "grunts" are not found in the first round anyway.  Guys that like to mix it up, get dirty & nasty in the trenches.  The first round is filled with physical, big bodies who are pass rushers that can play DT or DE but IMO not NT.  The true NT's are a rare breed but Parcells has a kanck for finding them so I'm on board.

  41. I'd be shocked if Crowder gets dumped. I think Dobbins will probably back him up and be a stud on special teams. Torbor is probably gone if I had to guess, he is getting paid more than Crowder, yet he's the backup and is older... time to cut his bloated salary.

  42. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:08 AM


    Not sure but I'm not that surprised that the Jets took a CB since Cromartie has not turned out to be the Pro-Bowl player that he was two or three years ago & also the Jets already have a very good defense so they can afford to take the guy they think was the BPA.  However the Patriots drafted a number of CB's over the last couple of years like Butler, Wilhite, & Wheatley plus they re-signed Bodden so they must not be sold on a couple of those guys.  I think the Patriots need a pass rusher as much as we do so I wish both of these teams the best of luck with their rookies trying to stop our offense.

  43. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:10 AM


    Will you have a complete nervous breakdown if we take Golden Tate (& his Dolphin hat) @ 40.  LOL!!! I'm just f#cking around.  I don't think Tate will go until later in the 2nd & maybe in the 3rd.

  44. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:12 AM

    LOL!!!!  Like I was just saying....

    "It's now obvious that Terrence Wheatley is "on the outs" with Devin McCourty on board, according to the Boston Globe.
    Jonathan Wilhite could be out of the mix as well. The Pats have veterans Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs plus last year's second-rounder Darius Butler in addition to McCourty. Wheatley, the 62nd overall pick in 2008, has played in just 11 games the past two years due to injuries and poor play."

    Source: Boston Globe

  45. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:14 AM

    WOW!!!   Now this would make sense b/c I think Kindle is a heck of a player

    Appearing on ESPN 101 St. Louis Friday morning, Adam Schefter confirmed that Sergio Kindle fell out of round one due to medical concerns.
    "Definite medical issues," Schefter reported. "I've spoken to some teams that have him off their board (entirely)." The latest rumors have Kindle possibly needing microfracture knee surgery, which would knock him out for his entire rookie year. At this point, we'd be surprised if he's drafted in round two. Apr. 23 - 11:03 am et

  46. yeah they still haven't given Cromartie a new contract, they traded for him but he only has 1 year on the deal.

  47. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:23 AM

    Okay my first round pick WAS Kindle but after reading Schefter's reports, I think we take Linval Joseph @ 40 to play NT.   

  48. That's interesting... If that's true i'll be rooting for Nate Allen or Everson Griffen.

  49. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM


    Griffen might also make sense to play the SLB.

  50. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:36 AM

    Griffen is a really big kid so he fits the Parcells prototype.  I wonder if he's there @ 40???  Maybe we wind up trading down again....My head was spinning like a top last night.  Very excited for tonight but I'd prefer a little less madness.  LMAO!!!

  51. There has to be someone we want up there... we didn't trade with Philly because they wouldn't give us their 37th pick.... which would put us around where we currently are... there is something we definitely are targeting in that range we're at now, that wouldn't have been there later. Least it seems that way, if we had traded with Philly for their later 2nd we would have gotten more later picks. So I gotta believe we have a specific plan and reason we stayed in that very close range to their early pick.

  52. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    Sh#t....Need to do some actual work today.

  53. Off topic, anyone know anywhere where i can watch the draft online tonight? Day 2 isn’t on UK tv unfortunately

    Can't say i was enamoured with the ESPN coverage of day 1 which was broadcast on UK tv - Steve Young and Berman were shockingly bad

  54. We Have PlaymakersApril 23, 2010 at 10:35 AM

    Sorry Dan.  Just another dumb American living in NYC.  UKfin would know.

  55. Thanks WHP, i'm sure someone will point the way to a draft stream in the chat later anyhow

  56. Isn't it available on Not sure, but I thought it was live. I know Justin.Tv has it.

  57. I guess horns is better than going bald, LOL. Which I am sure I will be in 15 years.

    But I am cutting my hair :( , so maybe we can save the paternity tests for now.

  58. Here is a good question for us. Does anything Nolan used in Denver, point to exactly how Odrick could be used?

    I know the hybrid 3-4/4-3 will show more interior lineman coming in, especially on 3rd and long (our biggest let down on defense by the way). I think we will see lots of mix of personnel that could, provide exotic looks, to put QBs on their backs or backpeddling.

  59. Dan W

    Tin streams it here. Well, he did for round 1. Daniel 127 always gets good links off

  60. we wanted to stay in front of the jets in the 1st and get close to our
    original pick whic was 43

  61. you could've watched it right here on Tins Fins

  62. If Daniel is around and provides a link I will gladly host it here. I know
    everyone has ESPN but not everyone has NFLN.

  63. Still have all my hair. No baldness in my family.  :)

  64. KNIGHT, I KNOW you and I have simular thoughts alot,
    and your not going to believe this,
    but I also thought Joey's mugg was an old picture of MEEEE, VERY STRANGE!!!
    I still have the hair, have to keep-it to hide the bald circle where the rain gets in!!!