Monday, April 19, 2010

Tin Bits - Monday, 4/19/10

  • The live mock draft on Friday was a lot of fun.  It was a bit awkward at times because there was about a 2 second delay on the phone (which I didn't know about until I was on the air) but other than that it went well, and it was funny how many teams I pissed off by taking Brandon Graham with the 12th pick.  He seemed to be the top choice for several teams behind me including the Pats and the Jets.  It's always a bonus pissing them off.  If you'd like to listen to the show, click HERE and then you can either play it straight through your browser or get from iTunes, etc.
  • The dead-line passed for the entrance into the Tins Fins Draft Contest.  This one saw a drop in total entries (there were a lot of complaints about it being too hard but it was virtually identical to the one from 2009 - I did employ a lot of cut and  paste).  In any event. for those that entered you have a better chance of winning now.  Results will be posted next Monday morning after the draft.
  • The Brandon Marshall contract was apparently (according to profootballtalk.com) significantly leaner in the guaranteed money area than was originally reported.  It looks like the Dolphins really got a good deal in the end.
  • LB Channing Crowder on Marshall: "I worked out with him yesterday and he's strong as hell, fast as hell, so he's going to help us."
  • Jason Taylor is due back from his mini-vacation today, and since the Dolphins canceled their 'leaked' meeting with him last week, and the Jets are still ga-ga over him, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs with them by the end of the day.  Then again, since it's JT, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't sign anything until August, either. 
  • Ricky Williams recently shared this - "I woke up this morning knowing I had to study most of the day. I was feeling overwhelmed by all I have to do, & on top of that I couldn't find my cellphone. Funny, several hours later we found it in my massage chair.. definitely not somewhere I would have expected it to be..."  I thought that was interesting because it made me think...if you were on a vibrating chair and your phone was on vibrate, would you be able to feel it, and if it dropped out of your pocket and you had a friend call your number, would you be able to hear it vibrating against the chair?  Yes, these are the kinds of thoughts I have before I get half a cup of coffee down.
  • And finally, I just wanted to share this video because it captures exactly what I was doing over the weekend as one of the most exciting things imaginable occurred in the sporting world.  And it just goes with what I've said many times in the past - that the Dolphins need to take a page out of the world of soccer, specifically the English Premier League, and specifically the Manchester United Red Devils.  It ain't over till it's over, so play on and never stop trying to win!  Cheers!





163 comments:

  1. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 8:27 AM

    I couldn't fully grasp what the full perameters of Marshall's new contract from PFT since I haven't had my coffee yet either.  My nod to Ricky.  At least he wasn't stoned right???  However, it did seem a little crazy for Parcell to guarantee $20 Million to a guy that is certainly not a boyscout.  I think that anyone who believes that going after Marshall was an 'act of desperation' by the Dolphins should know we didn't bet the ranch on him. 

    IMO--Signing Marshall was absolutely an act of desperation.  With the WR's that were on our roster & with all of the question marks surrounding potential Number 1's like Bryant & Thomas this was a position that we desperately had to address to ever scare opposing teams defenses.  I don't really care that Revis is looking forward to the challenge b/c even if he can cover Marshall, I like our chances going after Cromartie who is going to need 60 extra tickets for each game so his kids can watch him play.

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  2. Why won't the Fins just sign JT to split time with Wake while he develops?  It's insurance for both of them!  Or does JT only want to be a 3rd down specialist? 

    I would guess the Fins want to wait until the draft to do anything but even if they load up on OLBs (which I'm sure they will), how many could contribute and be starters right away?

    We really need that veteran leadership especially with Fergie out half the season. 

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  3. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 8:30 AM

    Since Ricky has said that Ronnie is doing well after recovering from his injury, unless we could get some team to make us an offer that we can't refuse, I'd be disappointed to not have him sharing carries with Ricky.  To complete the total package on offense if we can find a TE with good receiving skills, I say good luck to any defense that goes up aginst us.

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  4. So...you think it's an act of desperation or not?  Or you think the signing was desperation but not the money involved?

    Basically the key thing is that's he's signed to a conditional contract.  if he doesn't live up to the conditions, the Dolphins can cut him without owing him any extra money.  The most he would make in that scenario is $9.5 M.  If they don't cut him he'd get another bonus which would bring it up to $12.5 million guaranteed (I'm actually guessing at the numbers here, too lazy to click on my own link, lol).

    Ultimately, someone like Marshall would cost you a 1st round pick if he were a rookie.  We traded our 2nd round pick (which arguably we would've used on a WR anyway - one that is nowhere near as good as Marshall) in this draft and our 2011 2nd rounder, which hopefully will be the 64th overall pick.  I think if you look at it like we used 2 2nd round picks to get a 1st round talent, there's no way not to like the deal. 

    Oh, I just understood your 'act of desperation' comment, lol.  Where is that coffee....

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  5. Tin, I wanted to enter the contest and had most of it done but I got real busy close to the deadline and the trade for Marshall messed up my mock draft which then effected my total TDs scored by our draftees and I just couldn't finish it. It wasn't too hard, it just took too much research in a short time for me.

    My gut tells me our pick will be Derrick Morgan at #12 if he falls to us and we don't trade down which I think is very possible.

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  6. I think I should mention that the Man utd miracle was significant because it put us 1 point behind Chelsea for the championship and then they lost the late game on the same day, so we went from being completely out of the race to being 1 point back with 3 games left for the championship.

    It was just whipped cream on top of an already fantastic weekend.  I'm looking forward to this weekend with the Draft on the 22nd - 24th, the next Man Utd game on the 24th, going to the cinema with my son on the 25th, and then my birthday is on the 27th, so there's a 15% chance I may get some lovin' this month too...

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  7. You don't think there's been too much buzz about it being Morgan for it to be Morgan?  ;)

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  8. Well, the Broncos just traded Tony Schefler to Detroit.

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  9. No, he fits the criteria in every category. I don't buy into the smoke and mirrors thing all that much. Sure teams don't want to tip their hand, but if they like a guy it's no secret. All these teams have an idea on who is going where or possibly where they might go. They know we run a 3-4 defense, released Porter and haven't re-signed JT.

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  10. That's all part of the smokescreen so they can draft Jimmy Clausen....

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  11. The evil-thinking part of my brain keeps thinking that JT is just pulling off one of the best mind-f***s of all time and has no intention of signing with the Jets and is just stringing them along because he hates them so much.  Wouldn't that be awesome?  LOL 

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  12. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 9:45 AM

    LOL!!!  Getting a player like Marshall is an 'act of desperation' in the best way possible.  Mmmmm....Coffee.

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  13. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM

    I wonder if it's McDaniels winning personality that has everybody wanting out.  I'd love to hear Mike Nolan's thoughts off the record.

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  14. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 9:48 AM

    Tinshaker,

    You didn't even put me guy Kindle in the poll???  That hurts...

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  15. We Have PlaymakersApril 19, 2010 at 9:49 AM

    Indeed.  That certainly would be but if I see the Dancing Dolphin wearing a Jet hat at a press conference this week I'm going to be sick.

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  16. LOL, sorry, but I don't think Kindle is a top 15 talent. look at these 4
    mocks lined up together and you'll see 3 have him at #26, 1 at #22. Simon
    Clancy thinks he's the most over-rated of the 1st round prospects and
    shouldn't go till the 2nd. I have him going #25 in my mock and in the live
    radio mock on Friday he wasn't chosen until #25.

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  17. It *could* be construed as awesome, but it will still piss off the average
    Dolphin fan. If he signs with the Dolphins he'll still be booed on opening
    day.

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  18. Well it's well-documented that Cutler, Marshall and Schefler did not buy
    into the McDaniels regime, and both Marshall and Schefler were suspended for
    their behavior. I don't blame any of the players though, McDaniels went in
    on day one with no respect for them and they retaliated. We all know he's
    an A-hole. Let's see how well he does without Denver's 3 biggest offensive
    players from 2008.

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  19. Tin, I voted Dan Williams in your poll. I think a dominant team is built with stout linemen on both sides of the ball.

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  20. LOL, if that happens listen for the news reports the next day about Dolphin fans jumping out of windows all over the country.

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  21. Updating a previous item, the Philadelphia Eagles announced Monday, April 19, a three-way trade involving the Eagles, Denver Broncos and Detroit Lions. The Eagles traded a 2010 fifth-round draft pick to the Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos have traded TE Tony Scheffler and a seventh-round draft pick to the Detroit Lions. The Lions traded LB Ernie Sims to the Eagles.

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  22. Did someone say stout? I could use one...

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  23. For whatever it's worth in regards to leadership, I think Karlos Dansby is a better leader than any of the people we've lost/might lose.

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  24. Are NT's drafted high?  I can only think of Wilfork, and Im not sure he wasnt drafted inthe 20's... I just think, as good as Dan Williams is, they really think they can get a NT late... I really like Linval.

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  25. I'm curious that with that since the Patriots will most likely cut Adalius Thomas why the Jets organization are making such a push for Taylor.  Living in NYC, I can assure you that the Jet fans I know don't want him. 

    I don't like this dance that Taylor is doing & I really can't understand what the hurry is.  If he wants to play for the Dolphins, I believe they're going to bring him back no matter who we draft.  The fact that he's even considering tarnishing his reputation as a Dolphin to play for the Jets is already a mistake.  I don't care who the Jets sign as long as their QB is Sanchez they are not winning a Super Bowl.  And even if the Jets do in fact win a SB, then Jason Taylor will forever be disliked by all Dolphin fans.

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  26. You wanna see stout? Jeff Owens is built to be a NT, way stronger than Williams. I think Williams was a product of coaching and scheme, hence his one-year wonder tag. Willliams will not be the pick for the Phins and years down the road he will not be the best NT from this draft, IMHO!

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  27. JT seems to either be getting really bad advice or just not really
    interested in his rep.

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  28. What about the UNC guy that is suddenly on the radar...i forget his name, he
    must have played 2nd fiddle...suddenly he's being touted as a NT option.

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  29. Cam Thomas. He was impressive at the Senior Bowl, that's where his hype is coming from but he's considered 3rd round tops and I'm not sure he even goes that high.

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  30. Recession in the NFL:
    Ted Ginn - 1st rd 9th overall in 2007 - traded for 5th round 145th overall
    in 2010.
    Ernie Sims - 1st rd 9th overall in 2006 - traded for 5th rd 137th overall in
    2010.
    Santonio Holmes - 1st rd 25th overall in 2006 - traded for 5th round 155th
    overall

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  31. Good point about Dan Williams being a one year wonder because of Kiffin. Everyone likes to say Kiffin brought out his true potential which was modest anyway. What if Kiffin just got the most out of him and that his upside is limited?

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  32. Crazy!

    Brandon Marshall - 4th rd #119 in 2006 - traded for 2nd round #43 overall in 2010 and 2011 2nd round pick.

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  33. I think at the end of all this, Ashton Kutcher is going to jump out and tell Rex Ryan he's been punk'd.  It would explain so much.

    BTW Tinshaker, I listened to the thing on Friday and was totally surprised you didn't have a British accent...what gives?   I thought you grew up over there in the land of tea and crumpets....

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  34. Tin, no British accent? You know how the American girls get all... well you know, men with British accents. I use to pretend to have a British accent just to see if it was true and it was. LOL

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  35. Tinshaker,

    Then he shouldn't have come back to Miami last year.  He knew we were rebuilding.  As a Dolphin fan I think his agent is giving him terrible advice.  As a business person I've got to believe that the reason his agent is pushing JT towards NY involves potentially larger endorsement deals but that can very easily backfire on him if he gets hurt or doesn't produce.  In the bigger picture when JT decides to hang 'em up, if he goes to play for the Jets it will hurt his legacy.

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  36. Green Bay probably wants to get one of the higher rated LTs.

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  37. BJ Raji went #9 last year, and I think they took a NT type high a couple of
    years ago too.
    Haloti Ngata was chosen #12 in 2006.

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  38. Well if Simon Clancy says so....LOL!!!  Then I had to pick Morgan since I believe (like Graham) he can also play either OLB position & he fits the Parcells prototype.

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  39. no, not Thomas, i hate him as a prospect - he's an idiot - personality is a
    combination of Porter, Ginn, and an eggplant. There's a different guy
    getting late round (5th) grade now that I had never seen on the radar
    before.

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  40. This is hilarious & exactly what I think about Cody.

    "Based on forty-yard dash time, Terrence Cody will become the slowest defensive tackle to be drafted in the last 20 years this week.
    Cody's 5.66 forty time is rivaled only by former seventh-rounder Corey Swinson (5.62 in 1985), fifth-rounder Tim Roberts (5.51 in 1992), and 2009 Patriots second-round pick Ron Brace (5.51). "This guy doesn't have any first-step quickness," observed a scout of Cody. "He's a big, fat blob," added one NFC personnel man. "He's a big media creation. He cannot move at all."

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  41. Oh let's not kid ourselves - Kiffin wasn't in the game - the film on
    Williams shows he can play NT, end of story. Everyone's hyping up Derrick
    Morgan but his film shows him getting blown up all over the place. If you
    put on Graham's film and Morgans right next to each other, it's easy to see
    who is better. You should see what CJ Spiller did to Morgan in the
    Clemson/GT game, and even crappy U of Miami beat up on Morgan.

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  42. Interesting about Ngata.  Great player but he eventually moved to DE.

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  43. You know how it is, talking with a group of Americans I get all American and
    when I'm around brits I sound british.
    I've spent more than half my life in the US, most notably my high
    school/college years.

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  44. LOL, Aleric Mullins?

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  45. Ngata plays LDE when the Ravens go to the 3-4 and DT in their 4-3. Kelly Gregg is their NT.

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  46. No, I grew up in the Caribbean with the reggae and calypso and shark n' bake
    and bahama mamas. lol. I am of british descent and spent a lot of time
    over there, including a 4 year stretch this decade, but I have never had an
    accent really - it changes a bit based on who I'm talking to - like a phone
    voice - when I talk to brits I sound like Hugh Grant, when I talk to West
    indians I sound like Bob Marley, and when I talk to Americans I sound like
    ....well you tell me!

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  47. british accent!!!!!!!!!  damn, no wonder it hasnt worked for me.  this whole time i thought it was having teeth like the british that got the women all...well you know.

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  48. LMAO!  Speaking of accents, I'm sure you all would get a big laugh hearing mine....of course I don't think I have one! 

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  49. That thought actually crossed my mind but I figured I was crazy.....Pretty sure I'm still crazy but I'm not alone!!

    The only ones being strung along in the JT soap is the fans by JTs agent.  He's running to an acting career and trying to make a clean exit.  That's my theory at least.  And I think us signing Marshall gave him pause.....

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  50. Tin, there is film of Dan Williams being a non-factor.

    That said, these are all young guys and they have not reached their potential yet.

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  51. I hear a lot of Cody fans talk about his 'rare explosiveness' and that his weight can be monitored and he will only get stronger in the NFL.  I've watched his hightlights and I can't help but think he's only occupying 2 blockers because he's the biggest tub of lard on the field, which can work in the college game...

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  52. By the way Morgan isn't my favorite player in this draft. I do like his potential and intangibles. I just think he has trifecta written all over him.

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  53. You can't put a speed back like Spiller all on the DE. LOL

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  54. Cody is like filling a bag with 400 lbs. of lard and saying move that out of the way by pushing it. LOL

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  55. so then i guess the question is, how does DW stack up to Ngata or Raji?  Is Raji playing NT?  I know Ngata is beast I would love for us to have... If DW is close to that, I feel very good about DW at 12, which I have been hesitant about for awhile now...

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  56. herd, do you say ya'll and stuff like that?

    I don't think I have an accent either but whenever people from other parts of the country or the world meet me, they want to know what my accent is. I don't speak in typical Joisey (I'm not a guido) stereotype but it always interests people.  =-X

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  57. YES! Aleric Mullins

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  58. Yeah well any defensive player is going to have bad film. If we're going
    based on who has the least bad film, then CJ Spiller is the pick.

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  59. Look at the game, Spiller, despite everyone's assumptions, does run right up
    the middle many times and just hops over Morgan when he needs to. Morgan
    cannot beat a double team in any of the film I watched.
    I'm not saying he doesn't have ability or upside - but if we're going
    squarely with someone for size and athleticism, I'd pick JPP over DM. But
    with that said, I'd still be happier with Graham. The film on Graham is
    miles better than the film on Morgan, and vaults deeper than the film on
    JPP.
    And I can't see the Dolphins walking away from the Senior Bowl without
    having already fallen in love with Graham.

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  60. When I hear herdfan in my head, I hear Elly May Clampett....

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  61. Tim,

    You are correct & Ngata an excellent player.  With all this draft talk I distinctly remember that draft & I was hoping either Bunkley or Ngata would fall to us. 

    Personally I like when 3-4 teams mix it up & use a 4-3 to give the other team a different look.  I know the Jets are getting most of the hype this offseason but the Ravens have a pretty solid football team.  Boldin is going to help them & they can definitely run the ball.  They need a CB & a TE.

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  62. I'm not an NFL scout but if a team takes Cody in the 2nd round I believe that's a complete waste of a pick.  His enormous size might have been enough to work in college but in the NFL, he's going to get worked.

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  63. Red Dog,

    I know what Cody fans think but IMO, he's too slow & he's really not THAT strong.  He's got BUST written all over that 365 pound body.

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  64. I still want McClain. At 20 years old that kid is a pure LB already and his upside is huge.

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  65. Yes Raji is playing NT and did quite well as a rookie I think. I wouldn't
    compare Williams to any of those players, but I would say he's hands above
    any other NT prospect in this draft. I know the Enchanter being a Yankee
    hates all things Southern, but the truth is when you look at the tape,
    Williams held the point of attack better than any DT in college last year
    and that is why he is projected as a NT. I disagree that he doesn't have
    good strength - he may not have benched well (keep in mind he has long
    arms), but he can take on two blockers and not get pushed back. He is a bit
    of a project because he needs to learn a couple of moves to help him
    disengage, but he looks to have what it takes to be an NFL nose tackle. The
    question for me is if he'll develop into someone as good as Wilfork - the
    Dolphins don't have the luxury really to use the 12th pick on a project
    which is why he dropped out of my top spot, but I still think he'll make a
    good NT and there's a chance that they take him and hope he develops quickly
    because they are sort of screwed needing starters at OLB, NT and FS and only
    two picks in the first 3 rds.

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  66. WHP, agreed Ngata is an excellent player. We also mix it up from 3-4 to the 4-3. I like it too.

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  67. I hope he signs with them.  We'll know exactly who to run at.

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  68. Hey, I like things from the South. I'm not one of those ignorant segregationists who believe in dividing our country. Like the idiot who came up with red and blue states.

    My issues with Williams is he's never played NT and now he's expected to do it at the next level. That and he's a 2-down player and will not help us on 3rd down. I also don't think our interior run defense was a big issue last year and the stats prove it though it gets ignored by just about everyone who hasn't looked into it. I like Williams if we traded down but not at #12.

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  69. I hear 'ya.  I don't want him.  I can't help but think he's just a younger Soliai...

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  70. Soliai ran a 4.95 at 345 lbs.

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  71. Ah, but he *has* played some NT. Tennessee frequently played a 3 man front
    on 3rd down and he was in (also goes against the whole 2-down player idea).
    I watched at least 7 UT games last year and he didn't look gassed or
    anything.
    I do agree with you on the red and blue thing, why, as people in America,
    should we have to choose between the flag's two primary colors? it's
    un-american. If you pick red you might as well be chinese and if you pick
    blue....I can't think of any all blue flags....united nations maybe?
    Personally I prefer much more subdued colors anyway. I think the
    Republicans should be Ecru and the Democrats should be a light slate
    grey....

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  72. Your the first to ever say he's played NT in a 3 man front and one of the main concerns with him is his stamina. He's not a pass rusher in anyway. He will come off the field on 3rd and 5+ in the NFL. Just not at #12. Trade down to #20 get back a 2nd and he's a much better value, IMO.

    I think we should invite all the republicans and democrats to a picnic and serve them Koolaide with acid in it. I bet you they'll start agree on something. Even if it is a dog the size of a giraffe but only green.

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  73. Tin - I'm with you all the way here. On top of all that, my home town team got promoted from League 2 as well. AND I got some lovin'. It was a full house for me too (although no cinema trips and I've stopped counting b-days!) I still think United are second favourites for the title as Chelsea have the point advantage and superior goal difference, but United hopefully have the better nerve and that just may swin it in our favour!?! Anyway, I loved the video clip, especially the guy who tried to throw his daughter through the ceiling and then shook her like a rag doll. Plenty og green and yellow scarves too - Love Utd, Hate the Glazers!!!

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  74. LOL, when i hear herdfan in my head i hear lots of moaning.    


    .......oh get your heads out of the gutter, moaning over my british dental design fashons :-D

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  75. Herd, were you aware of the double entendre on crumpet?
    Tin, listened to the blog - nice job. I could detect the Blighty accent and I was mildly concerned you might have started whooping it up on the show - I somehow saw you getting an attack of the "Home" ADHDs, but you came over very laid back I would say. You represented the Fins well.
    FFR, good to see you back and in your usual fine form and still cracking the same jokes!
    Tim, where do these girls who love the British accent hang out. When this volcanic ash settles I'm booking my flight ..... ;)

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  76. There's one guy in there who has a green and yellow version of the current
    uniform - thought that was cool. At my house both my son and I were jumping
    up and down shouting, "Yes! Yes! YESSS!!!!" He was just doing it to mimic
    me, but I nearly went through my own ceiling on the first jump!
    LUHG!

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  77. I'm with you if you mean hypochloric acid...

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  78. I only had the audio - my girlfriend doesn't have Sky Sports - so I had the laptop ..... well, on my lap, suprisingly. Made my leap a bit lame really.

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  79. Well the thing is we were only supposed to be on the clock for a total of 3
    minutes, but of course certain teams seemed to get to spew novels out so I
    kind of tried to get the Dolphins some air-time without sounding like my
    team was more important than any of the others - because I know most of the
    listeners are only interested in their team's pick. Plus there was a mild
    hiccup or two because of a delay that seemed to alternate. FWIW, the host
    had issues with the delay too, either that or he didn't expect me to greet
    him back, lol. I suppose I was the most polite representative...

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  80. Fantastic idea!  Then we can put pads on them and let them be the tackling dummies for a practice or two.

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  81. Well, I'm slightly biased, but I thought there were a few folk on there who just wanted to hear their own voice, a few who seemed like they didn't want to be on there and a few who did their job (including you) and made the pick and backed up the reasons for it well. Having said that, as soon as you were off the clock, I shut the browser down - I'd already waited 1/2 an hour for your slot!

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  82. AND THE SCHEDULE gets released on Tues 4-20 @ 4:20, WOOOO HOOOO P  A  R  T  Y -  T  I  M  E  !!!!

    And THEN TIN gets laid !!!

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  83. uhhh no to the double entendre...but I just checked with my friend Google and have discovered it also means 'hot chick' according to the urban dictionary.  LOL  Is that what you're referring to? 

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  84. Having a bit of crumpet is a euphemism for a roll in the hay and a bit of crumpet is indeed a "hot chick". Just thought you should know in case you ever use it in a real conversation and it is deliberately misinterpreted and lots of snickering ensues! ;)

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  85. Wasn't it on BBC?
    I watched the Sky broadcast but when I watched Match of the Day later (for
    the Chelsea score) the boradcast they used for the MUTD highlights was a BBC
    one.

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  86. Nearly forgot to mention Arsenal shooting themselves in the foot and blowing a 2-1 lead as well!

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  87. Who's that UNC guy, EJ Wilson??
    I've mentioned him and his Bro(I'm assuming)CJ EstCar numerous times w'no feedback..

    Though, I was wondering iff they had the hips to play DE/OLB @ 288lbs,
    their 40s are in the same range as BGrahams!!

    Honestly I thought @ 290 or so they weren't quite large enough to consistently control the middle...
    But,for the sake of covering all angles,
    I asked IFFF they had the frame to gain some poundage,and move inside??

    Who knows, MAYBE your not even talkin about EJWilson??
    NEVERMIND,just spotted the Aleric Mullins reply!!
    Though I'd STILL like some Wilson (brother's??) thought's...

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  88. Red Dog:
    If you're thinking like me there is no doubt about crazy!  FWIW, I also thought the Marshall signing would make him think twice. I'm not sure which one of us should be more concerned....lol

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  89. <span>Just watched an interview of Cam Thomas... excellent assessment Tin. Listening to him talk makes me lol and not in a good way...</span>

    http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/888129.html

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  90. SF & Seat @ 13 & 14 are both hoping to acquire CJSpiller's services,
    and MAYYY want to trade us and jump each-other to get him,or Clausen!!

    I'd luv to move-down,and STILL land BG, DW, or McC !!

    What's the chart say??
    How many spots do we need to drop in order to re-gather a 2nd rndr (5, 10, 15)??
    I'm willing to move-down 5 spot's, will that gather a 3rd rndr?? Where is this chart??

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  91. Film and the fact the Dolphins coaching staff talked Williams up at the Senior bowl suggests he will be a fine NT. However, to further my point he won't be a Dolphin, Parcells doesn't like one-year wonders enough to draft one in the first round. Obviously the same point can be said about JPP. Although he is a beast and a freak, I think he is off our board. To quote the FO, "we need good players." I'm hopig they stick to what they know and trade down to grab B Graham, small or not he is a "good" player

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  92. lol at the C Thomas analogy, right on point. What a putz! If people went off interviews to assess talent, Ginn should have never been picked in the first round! I cringed everytime I heard him speak.

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  93. Tin and I had this discussion about a month ago when I proposed the question about drafting a NT with such a high pick who would be a project. I didn't see the point, but like Tin said, every NT that comes from college is a project...including Wilfork. However, we do not have the luxury from a talent standpoint the Pats did at the time they took Wilfork.

    Although I know you like D Willimas a lot Tin...I'm to see you came around and removed him from your top spot :)

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  94. I don't want the STAY PUFF MARSHMELLOW man anywhere near the dolphins. He seems like a balloon waiting to be popped! His ability to all of a sudden "lose weight and be dedicated" is a mere ploy to be drafted and get paid...he will have weight and conditioning problems his entire career,

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  95. Green Bay has potential as a trade down ...they need OL badly and the prime beef will be gone by 23 ...we have Smiley on the block ...but a drop to 23 would cost them ...probably their 2nd and one of their 3rds ...adding Smiley might tempt them enough to do the deal.

    I still like a trade up if Berry is there at 5 but the loss of the 2nd for Marshal makes that unlikely now.

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  96. No - the beeb don't have any live Premiership games - only Sky and ESPN. The highlights on MotD are usually from BBC cameras, not the Sky feed.

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  97. I think that MIGHT be why he (TG) played scared (in some's opinion, NOT MINE)!!
    He talks as though his jaws been broken a few times!!

    Though,I realize that's not what botherd you about how he speaks!!

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  98. THANX for the chart LEMMUS!!

    Yeaa, I saw that a few teams near the mid-twenties MIGHT be lookin to move-up
    (GB,Phi,AZ),JJONES MIGHT be regretting his shots @ BP and want to re-establish connection's
    w'flowers??

    11 PLUS spots is a bit steep for my taste,(b/c it takes all the gyz I REALLY LIKE outta play),BG,DW,McC,ET !!

    I'd GUESS that we MIGHT STILL be able to land flagged OLBs JP-Paul, SKindle, etc in the mid-20s,
    but I'd PERSONALLY prefer moving down to SF's 17 spot,and STILL land an ESTABLISHED @ MICHIGAN BG,
    or DW,McC,ET... 

    IFFF those 4 are still @ 12, we can drop 5 spots and pretty-much STILL be GUARANTEED ONE of 2 possibly 3,
    w'CJ, Clausen, and OL LIKELY being used w'@least a couple of those pks b/t 12-17!!

    But YEAAA, I'd bet that BP REALLY wants a 2nd rnd pk !!!
    I just think that giving-up a LIKELY TO SUCCEED guy in favor of two hmmmm gyz is counter-productive!!
    I don't see anything THAT exciting in the 2nd rnd,(but that would depend on the direction taken in the 1st)!!

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  99. IFFF we were to move-down to the mid-20s or so, PHILLY @24 has TWO 2nds #37, 55 !!!

    #12 for #24 AND 37(DMc), I don't see Phi doing that!!  #12 for #24 AND 55???

    I really only like the LIKELY 2nd rnd FS's,
    not that excited w'the other 2nd rnd prospects @ position's of need!!
    Though those other position's of need have several prospect's that I'd like to target in the later rnds 3-7!!

    When we had a 2nd, I PERSONALLY was only targeting FS's,WR's,and (not likely there) DE/OLB JHUGHES!!

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  100. And TTroupe,(who I'm NOWW hoping falls to 73)!!! 


    MAYBEEEE, BPRICE is in the 2nd, IFFF we were to get there??
    But I like TROUPE ALOT !!! 

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  101. Has ANYBODY seen the new KGB commercial's??
    Where a bunch of guy's are walkin around talkin sports/manly stuff,
    w'their heads LITERALLY up their asses >:o !!!  HILARIOUS!!!
    Reminded me of the comment's section's @ SOME sites,
    I know I've told the banned/other's to get their head's outta their arse,and breathe some freash air!! 
    How'd they do that?? IFFF I were an actor,that'd of been one read that I'd of purposely botched!!

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  102. uk, go to Manhattan or nearby NJ and sound like your someone with your British accent and good fun will ensue. LOL

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  103. I dont know what he said in the interview but you should see some of his
    posts on twitter. the guy has no filter...

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  104. oh...so the commentary must be for radio?

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  105. Since this is the time for speculation try this on for size.  Albert Hayneworth is a no show at the Skins mini camp.  Maybe he was not required to be there, I don't know.  If Miami was willing to after Marshall what would stop them from trying for Hayneworth ?

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  106. ...keep in mind that ~50% of 1st rounders are busts ...look at Ginn ...Marshal was a 4th ...iirc, Brady was a 6th ...its a gamble in every round and lightning can strike anywhere ...these guys are very young and its just not possible to be sure who has reached their full potential already and who has yet to begin to grow ...which is one of the things I like about the trifecta's draft strategy ...they take two at the same position on the gamble that at least one of them will shine ...look at the WRs we took last year, the later pick came to play.

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  107. Yes - Radio 5 live.

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  108. <p><span>13kv, I was wondering if there were any rules you use for which words to capitalize? I’m not trying to berate you it’s just that I always get messed up trying to read your posts. It’s like you’re speaking to me and I need to put emphasis on certain words then I get caught up trying to alliterate your post and I lose what you were trying to say, if that made any sense?</span><span></span>
    </p><p><span></span>
    </p><p><span>Okay, draft… I’m leaving for Texas this afternoon heading to my brothers for the annual draft party. (It’s really an excuse we made up 10 years ago to get together every year but it has remained sacred.)</span>
    </p><p><span></span>
    </p><p><span></span><span>I’m leaning toward Earl Thomas and here’s why…</span>
    </p><p><span></span>
    </p><p><span></span><span>1<sup>st</sup>, the NFL is changing, in years past most teams would pass on a safety in the 1<sup>st</sup> round because it is a position that does not leave any options if the player busts. In today’s NFL, with the proliferation of the passing game, we are seeing the emergence of the free safety as a multifaceted play maker that can stabilize the defense in the face of multiple receiver sets on traditional running downs. The teams are gravitating toward dominate free safeties, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders and the contract signed by Rolle is also an indication of the influence these players are having in team personnel discussions.</span>
    </p><p><span></span>
    </p><p><span></span><span>What a used to be primarily a center fielder is now a man cover guy who can come up and make plays in the running game. In today’s game it is better to look at the FS as a 3<sup>rd</sup> corner with a little more size who can cover TEs but with the speed to hang with WRs. This guy is a little smaller than what was prototypical in the past but is also a little faster and is not afraid to throw his body around. With this player a defense can free itself from having to run nickel coverages every time a 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> WR enters the game. It also allows the strong safety to play closer to the line and mix it up in blitz packages.</span>
    </p><p><span></span>
    </p><p><span></span><span>I see Earl Thomas as this type of player and I think he will come out of this draft as a major player for the team fortunate enough or forward thinking enough to project him in this role.</span></p>

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  109. <p><span>13kv, I was wondering if there were any rules you use for which words to capitalize? I’m not trying to berate you it’s just that I always get messed up trying to read your posts. It’s like you’re speaking to me and I need to put emphasis on certain words then I get caught up trying to alliterate your post and I lose what you were trying to say, if that made any sense?</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>Okay, draft… I’m leaving for Texas this afternoon heading to my brothers for the annual draft party. (It’s really an excuse we made up 10 years ago to get together every year but it has remained sacred.)</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>I’m leaning toward Earl Thomas and here’s why…</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>1<sup>st</sup>, the NFL is changing, in years past most teams would pass on a safety in the 1<sup>st</sup> round because it is a position that does not leave any options if the player busts. In today’s NFL, with the proliferation of the passing game, we are seeing the emergence of the free safety as a multifaceted play maker that can stabilize the defense in the face of multiple receiver sets on traditional running downs. The teams are gravitating toward dominate free safeties, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders and the contract signed by Rolle is also an indication of the influence these players are having in team personnel discussions.</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    </p><p><span>What a used to be primarily a center fielder is now a man cover guy who can come up and make plays in the running game. In today’s game it is better to look at the FS as a 3<sup>rd</sup> corner with a little more size who can cover TEs but with the speed to hang with WRs. This guy is a little smaller than what was prototypical in the past but is also a little faster and is not afraid to throw his body around. With this player a defense can free itself from having to run nickel coverages every time a 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> WR enters the game. It also allows the strong safety to play closer to the line and mix it up in blitz packages.</span>
    </p><p><span> </span>
    <span>I see Earl Thomas as this type of player and I think he will come out of this draft as a major player for the team fortunate enough or forward thinking enough to project him in this role.</span></p>

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  110. <p><span>13kv, I was wondering if there were any rules you use for which words to capitalize? I’m not trying to berate you it’s just that I always get messed up trying to read your posts. It’s like you’re speaking to me and I need to put emphasis on certain words then I get caught up trying to alliterate your post and I lose what you were trying to say, if that made any sense?</span>
    </p><p><span>Okay, draft… I’m leaving for Texas this afternoon heading to my brothers for the annual draft party. (It’s really an excuse we made up 10 years ago to get together every year but it has remained sacred.)</span>
    </p><p><span>I’m leaning toward Earl Thomas and here’s why…</span>
    </p><p><span>1<sup>st</sup>, the NFL is changing, in years past most teams would pass on a safety in the 1<sup>st</sup> round because it is a position that does not leave any options if the player busts. In today’s NFL, with the proliferation of the passing game, we are seeing the emergence of the free safety as a multifaceted play maker that can stabilize the defense in the face of multiple receiver sets on traditional running downs. The teams are gravitating toward dominate free safeties, Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders and the contract signed by Rolle is also an indication of the influence these players are having in team personnel discussions.</span>
    </p><p><span>What a used to be primarily a center fielder is now a man cover guy who can come up and make plays in the running game. In today’s game it is better to look at the FS as a 3<sup>rd</sup> corner with a little more size who can cover TEs but with the speed to hang with WRs. This guy is a little smaller than what was prototypical in the past but is also a little faster and is not afraid to throw his body around. With this player a defense can free itself from having to run nickel coverages every time a 3<sup>rd</sup> or 4<sup>th</sup> WR enters the game. It also allows the strong safety to play closer to the line and mix it up in blitz packages.</span>
    </p><p><span>I see Earl Thomas as this type of player and I think he will come out of this draft as a major player for the team fortunate enough or forward thinking enough to project him in this role.</span></p>

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  111. They don't have the picks to get Haynesworth. They'd need a 2nd rounder
    IMO, which they don't have, and then there's the question of his salary.
    Plus he doesn't want to play NT in a 3-4, according to some sources.

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  112. LOL you should see his contest entry form. Should make for fun scoring...

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  113. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 8:21 AM

    With the draft approaching, I think it's very interesting that Price has fallen out of almost everybody's first round mock.  Still don't see why people think that he can't play NT in the NFL but that's another story. 

    I also have been seeing a lot of discussion of whether Morgan can play OLB in 3-4 or if he is a better fit in 4-3.  Since I haven't seen the kid play, I leave that stuff to the experts.  This could be a lot of pre-draft nonsense or it could mean that he's actually going to be available @ 12.  This draft is shaping up to be really exciting & with the draft be extended to three days, IMO, I think we're going to see a ton of trades.  More time=More phone calls.

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  114. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 8:23 AM

    For the record, I was very impressed with Price's workout at the combines & I believe he's going to be a very good player for some team.

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  115. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM

    WOW!   Read this. Losing Faneca or Ellis would hurt them.

    “The Jets have reportedly put LG Alan Faneca, DE Shaun Ellis, and OLB Bryan Thomas on the trade block.
    According to Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post, the players may all be released after the draft if no takers are found. Though Faneca was voted to the Pro Bowl (undeservedly, again), he graded out poorly last year as a pass blocker and wasn’t a difference maker in the running game. He’s also due a $7.5 million base salary going on age 34. Ellis is also aging and injury prone. Thomas is simply an unproductive pass rusher.”
    Source: National Football Post

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  116. LOL @ TIN/PATRICK!!


     ""It’s like you’re speaking to me"" 

    That's how I post, as though I'm speaking face to face w' everybody!!
    I EMPHASIZE the words that can't be visually EMPHASIZED from facial expression's!!
    I also capatalize the thing's/words that I feel STRONGLY about!!!

    I try to post as thoroughly as possible,so that MY POST aren't misconstrued,
    and so that I back-up MY THOUGHT's!!

    I've heard your complaint's b/4 Patrick,your lucky you weren't reading me b/4 this yr,
    when I didn't know how to seperate paragraphs!!
    EVERYBODY said they liked what I had to say,but that it gave them a headache trying to decode!!

    LOL,IT'S ALL GOOD BRO,I'm NOT offended,nor do I feel berated :-D !!

    TIN my answers shouldn't be confusing,but my reasoning & explanation's were extremly thorough!!
    Incase this or that takes place, I hope that this or that is the alternative!!

    GO  DOLPHINS !!!

      

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  117. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 8:55 AM

    I disagree.  He has the speed but at the end of the day he's too small & won't hold up.

    IMO--Polamalu is the best FS in football.  You need a FS that can make the 'statement' hits & that favors a bigger FS.  Bob Sanders is a heck of a football player when he's healthy which is not often enough. 

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  118. I don't think the knock on Price is that he can't play NT, it's just that on
    tape he's pass-rushing on every play, getting serious backfield penetration,
    etc. It's hard to find any tape of him taking on two blockers because on
    almost every play he gets past the o-line in a flash. He would be a perfect
    fit in a 4-3 scheme and I think that is the only reason no one wants to give
    him a shot at NT, because he would be too good in the 4-3 to move him.
    It's like Dez Bryant, sure he could probably play the slot, but since he's
    so good at split end, why move him?

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  119. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 8:57 AM

    Personally I like it.  It shows genuine enthusiasm.  Now if we can draft some guys who want to hit people with that kind of enthusiasm we'll be okay.  LOL!!!

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  120. They must've suddenly realized how old the team is. Good luck getting
    anything more than a 7th rounder for Faneca...hmmm...maybe Miami should
    offer a 7th. While they're at it, offer a 6th for Ellis.

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  121. Patrick,

    You had many similar thoughts to me, then I read this article. Caveat emptor. Having a good FS is like having a good wife, but there is also a flipside to that?!?

    <span><span>http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/free-safety-could-be-pillar-dolphins-defense-seeks-586137.html?cxtype=rss_dolphins</span></span>

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  122. WHP - I agree, but after reading one of 13's posts, it can feel like a full-contact practice session in July with pads? lol

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  123. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 9:19 AM

    Tinshaker,

    I think it's interesting that the Jets are supposedly 'all in' this year & they would get rid of these guys.  They only have 5 draft picks & they're defintely getting old.  Why not go after Taylor who is 40 right???  Since they are not winning a SB this year I can't wait until this blows up in Tannenbaum's (& Ryan's) face.

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  124. WHP, dude Thomas and Polumalu are virtually the same size and Thomas is faster... Mark me on this one. Thomas is going to be a stud.  Every defense is looking for a guy like this. Don't be surprised if he is drafted well before the pundits have him rated on their draft board.

    13kv, it's all good brother... I just wanted you to be aware that your posts are very difficult to read and sometimes your message doesn't get through because of it.

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  125. That was me BTW... Remote computer...

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  126. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 9:54 AM

    LOL@UK!!!  But it WAKES you up!!!

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  127. We Have PlaymakersApril 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    Patrick,

    Wow!  You're right. Polamalu is smaller than I thought.  

    Since you're about to go to Texas I'm assuming you've seen them play more than I have.  So what are your thoughts on Kindle???  I've read where people are saying he's more polished than Orakpo was???

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  128. Tin, there are some rumblings that the Giants might be trying to put a package together to get Suh. Their #15, Osi Umenyiora and their 2nd round pick or a pick next year.

    The Rams and some other teams are not sure if Bradford is worth #1 overall money and Clausen is really scaring some teams off. A team that wants Clausen probably wants to take him outside of the top 10.

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  129. he has an accent when he writes!  LOL Colour

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  130. I also heard today that the Giants want Jason Pierre-Paul

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  131. Tim,

    I'm telling you Clausen is a terrible prospect.  Any team that wastes a first round pick on him is going to regret it. 

    Suh to the Giants???  That would be quite a statement here in NY.

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  132. In Feb/Mar I was totally on board with Earl "The Pearl" being the pick. I am still holding on to it becoming a real possibliity for the exact reasons you mentioned. The game is changing and a great free safety offers a defense so much flexibility.

    Why I think E Thomas will not be the pick. When we traded for Marshall and lost #43 it created pressure to trade down and recoup another 2nd day pick or two. When we trade down we will grab an elite pass rushing OLB because after E Thomas goes, no other safety has

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  133. has...? has...? what does no other safety have? lol

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  134. But they have already two good DEs in Tuck and Kiwanuka.

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  135. WHP, I don't like Clausen either. I'm just saying if a team does like him they probably want to get him outside the top 10 because he's not elite.

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  136. Hey, I don't run the Giants, I'm just telling you what the latest buzz is.

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  137. Michael Lombardi, of the National Football Post, reports the New York Jets are actively shopping DL Shaun Ellis, OG Alan Faneca and OLB Bryan Thomas and will likely waive them following the NFL Draft.

    Not sure what's going on here.

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  138. LOL, I know I've heard the Giants might be interested in JPP. Their thinking might be he can develop under the other guys until he's ready to take over for one of the DEs.

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  139. <span>Tory Holt signed with the Pats.   >:o </span>

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  140. I happen to agree 100% on Clausen. I think that kid from Northwestern is going to be better than him. I don't see first round talent anywhere near Clausen.

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  141. WHP, I'm not real high on Kindle... I've watched him play many times and he is very stiff looking, not fluid at all. I think he will end up adding weight and playing end in a 4-3. I don't see him as a good prospect for Miami.

    I hear the talk about Clausen... I'm really torn on this one. I have seen him perform very well under pressure, but I have also seen him botch some things when there was no apparent reason for it. He seems to get l<span>ackadaisical at times and put his team in bad situations and then fight his way out of them. He certainly has the size and arm necessary to be a high level NFL QB, but my gut hunch is that he is a couple cards short of a full deck. If he were to fall out of 1st round or perhaps way down in the round, I would take a chance on him but he needs to spend a couple years playing behind a good QB or he will get overwhelmed and probably bust.</span>

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  142. Patrick, I think your assessment on Clausen not being all there is probably the best way to describe it. When I look at his eyes something is missing. I thought that watching him with Gruden on ESPN the other day. Sitting for a couple years is an absolute must for him. Granted though, the physical tools seem to be there.

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  143. Now I'm torn Knight, I'm a Wolfpack alum and hate the Pats. Hopefully it's only for a year! Not happy about this savy vet going against our young secondary.

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  144. Nc, I saw that too... Man I love Gruden as an announcer, he's the next Madden without the goofiness. The thing that really, really bugged me about Clausen on that show was the stupid note pad. Instead of looking Gruden in the eye when Jon was reading him the riot act, he sat there and wrote notes. WTF was he writing on that paper? "I should not make bone headed decisions!" I thought that was all an act and it really turned me off to him.

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  145. Taylor to the Jets...its official!

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  146. Patrick,

    Interesting to hear your take on Kindle.  I thought the exact same thing this time last year about Orakpo & look at how well he did.  With the Redskins moving to a 3-4 I was just reading about how excited he is to make the transition.  

    As for Clausen, this is one player that I really did see play a lot last year.  Personally I just don't like the way he throws the ball & he is far from an elite prospect.   I know the reviews are mixed on him but from what I saw he had an excellent player named Golden Tate that was constantly bailing him out.  I know the NFL always puts a premium on QB's but to see an average QB like Clausen get drafted ahead of Tate???  I believe that Tate is the 2nd best playmaker--in terms of offense & special teams ability--in this draft behind Spiller.

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  147. Bad move JT.  Bad move. 

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  148. I'm not upset at all, hate the Wets and now convinced they will not win the superbowl nor the AFC. Taylor and his curse are gone and we can finally move on.

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  149. Now I know what Jeff Ireland was talking about when he said Jason Taylor knows exactly what we think of him.  We think we need to get younger, he was signed as a one year stop-gap last year, & we think we're better off without him. 

    Can anyone imagine the insanity of the Jets locker room with all these so-called leaders that have never won anything & Marissa Sanchez @ QB????  LOL!!!  Good luck winning over the Jet fans.

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  150. Well one thing JT guarantees the Jets is they won't be winning a championship. JT pissed off the football gods and bad karma follows him from team to team.

    07 Dolphins 1-15 - Redskins 9-7 made the playoffs
    08 Redskins 8-8 - Dolphins 11-5 won their division
    09 Dolphins 7-9

    Does anyone see a trend here.

    Bad move JT, very bad move.

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  151. Gruden is great & he's hilarious.  Now if they can get rid of Jaws & Tirico ESPN would have something.  There's no need to have three announcers.  Dump Tirico & get someone who isn't a total geek.

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  152. NcDolfan,

    Look at what happened when he went to the Redskins??? Careful what you wish for Jason....

    I don't think Parcells, Ireland, or Sparano are going to lose any sleep out over this.  If they wanted him back they would have signed him before all of this nonsense.  If we need a veteran at OLB, Parcells can always bring a guy like Greg Ellis into the fold.

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  153. WHP, I agree 100%! Golden Tate is going to be a heck of a player. Before the Marshall trade I was hoping he would fall to 43 and we would pick him up. He has great body control, excellent hands, good speed and he makes big plays in big games. I really like that kid.

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  154. I'm not the least bit disappointed.  I applaud Parcells for getting rid of all the dead wood.  Some fans are going to piss & moan but JT's 36 & we need to get younger.  Porter didn't want to hear that last year either but that's the deal.

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  155. I still think JT would have been great to split time and help develop Wake.  We would also draft a late round OLB to step in next year plus a starter on the strong side.  So pissed we sign some old guys but not others. 

    But JT to the Jets???  He must have really wanted to get back at the Fins....

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  156. <span><span>ukfinfan</span><span></span><img></img></span>
    <span>WHP - I agree, but after reading one of 13's posts, it can feel like a full-contact practice session in July with pads? lol</span>
    Today, 12:17:41 PM<span><span><span>– </span></span><span>Flag</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Like</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Reply</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Delete</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Edit</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Moderate</span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span><img></img></span><span><img></img></span> <span><span>We Have Playmakers</span><span></span><img></img></span>
    <span>LOL@UK!!!  But it WAKES you up!!!</span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span>THAT'S THE INTENT !!!!!!!!    GOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHH    D    O    L    P    H    I    N    S   !!!</span><span></span>

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  157. <span><span>ukfinfan</span><span></span><img></img></span>
    <span>WHP - I agree, but after reading one of 13's posts, it can feel like a full-contact practice session in July with pads? lol</span>
    Today, 12:17:41 PM<span><span><span>– </span></span><span>Flag</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Like</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Reply</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Delete</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Edit</span></span><span><span><span> – </span></span><span>Moderate</span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span><img></img></span><span><img></img></span> <span><span>We Have Playmakers</span><span></span><img></img></span>
    <span>LOL@UK!!!  But it WAKES you up!!!</span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span></span><span>THAT'S THE INTENT !!!!!     GOOOOOAAAAAHHHHH     D    O    L    P    H    I    N    S  !!!!!</span><span></span>

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  158. <span>UK """WHP - I agree, but after reading one of 13's posts, it can feel like a full-contact practice session in July with pads? lol"""</span>
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    <span><span>WHP """LOL@UK!!!  But it WAKES you up!!!"""</span></span>
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    <span><span>THAT'S THE INTENT !!!!!!      GOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHH   D    O    L    P    H    I    N    S   !!!!!!</span></span>

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  159. Perhaps SOMETIME'S(LOL), I defeat my own purpose!!! 
    I'll work on it, but don't expect a 180,
    I get EXTREMLY EXCITED ALL THING'S FINS :-P :-P :-P :-D !!!

    ENJOY the draft w'your Bro via Texas!!!   GOFINS!!!

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